Closing Ceremonies for 2025

All right, guys. >> Grab a seat. >> So, [clears throat] uh, first off, brief message. If you are staff, please stick around afterwards. We're going to do a staff photo, so don't go running off uh before we start doing loadout uh for the uh the conference. Uh, welcome everyone, staff or not, participant, speaker, whatever your particular role here might be. If you snuck in, you're welcome, too. That's fine. Um, welcome to the beginning of the end of the conference and yeah, and also the end of the beginning of your adventures in Wonderland, which hopefully will continue as you move out those doors into the rest of the crazy world that we've got going on in Vegas

this week. Um, show of hands while you're here. Uh, who is team Alice? Team Alice. Anyone? Alice and Bob in Wonderland. Eve. No. Anyone? Team Bob? Nope. Nobody. Nobody cares. Okay, never mind. Obviously all team Eve. That makes sense. I get it. >> Um, [clears throat] so we put on a thing and it actually went pretty well. Uh, yesterday >> change. >> Uh, you know, in spite of all the things the the world throws at us. I mean, yesterday was I think the first time in several years where I did a day 2 opening where I had no emergencies to relate. That was pretty crazy. Um, so, uh, we had 555 submissions, we had 218 speakers,

we had 245 sessions across those 218 speakers, we had all of that spread across nine different talk tracks and six training rooms. That's a lot of bides, my friends, and you are the ones who did it. [applause] It's really not bad for uh, you know, some pretty good progress from something that was 20 people in a room with a melting air conditioner just, you know, a decade ago, right? >> Sheets on the wall, man. >> Sheets on the wall. Yes, we need a t-shirt that says sheets on the wall. [laughter] Um, and in fact, you know, we were uh this is our second year now with Sky Talks coming and joining us here, which we are incredibly excited and grateful

for. But I was uh I was at the the Sky Talks reception with Blue Knight earlier this week and he brought up something that was really amazing. uh is standing right over there on the side and uh if he can wants to duck he can but he brought this artifact into the room and you know this you're all pretty familiar with the sky talks bucket right put your money in the bucket please [laughter]

>> uh but one of the things not a lot of people know see this on the other side. Can we get a can if you could get the camera on it that says Bides? >> This is the original bucket that >> the original Bides >> from the original Bides back when it was a a a little room in a house, right? Banshee went out and bought this bucket in order to take donations and then later, you know, it came back and uh [clears throat] was given to the Sky Talks folks and they used it and then they got Eddie the Yeti to decorate this. If you see this splatter art, I don't know if you guys are familiar with

all those portraits at Defcon. Like this is three different conferences I'm holding in my hand right here. And over a decade, it went around the horn and now it's come back home here to Bides. And I just think that's the coolest damn thing. Let's hear it for for the the Sky Talks folks, Blue Knight, Troutman, Circuit Swan, the whole crew. [applause] They've did an amazing job putting together a great program this year. Thank you for being here. >> And now I get to unlock my phone again because >> security. >> I talked too long. Yes. Well, we weren't going to say it, >> but um [clears throat] we had some some really great messages I

think this this year. We had uh some keynotes that were really important to me. Our first uh we had Bryson Bour here talking about how, you know, we get further if we go together and if everybody actually is able to give their full contribution, not just being present in the room, but actually feeling like they can give everything they've got in the room. Uh we went and we had our our our a keynote from someone who recently left the Treasury Department about how what we do cyber, you know, the the the security of uh information systems could be potentially underpinning the next giant financial crisis and that talking about lessons in resilience from, you know, finance that

can apply to security and and then turn around and and reinforce finance again. underpinnings of our economy and our entire, you know, society, right? We had, uh, one that was really important to me, uh, Allison [clears throat] coming up here and, you know, giving a a really deep and and nuanced examination of the the the security underground, the hacking culture, the the comm uh, you know, movements uh, within some of the, you know, Gen Z and so forth. And [sighs and gasps] for me though, while that was an amazing talk in its own right, the thing that really hit home for me is that Allison started here as a proving ground talk at Bsides. And 10

years later, she's come full circle and she's now on the main stage as our keynote speaker. And I just that is what we do here. As Jack always says, we are changing the world one life at a time. All we're doing is changing lives. and you guys are the ones that are doing that. So, um, and then, [clears throat] you know, Casey John Ellis, uh, brought it home for me where, you know, we talk about I I'm here quoting Jack, right, who we all wish was here with us. But that transition from being the person doing the thing to being the person teaching and and and aiding and assisting and leveling up all those folks who are

coming after you. and being able to listen to what they know and to their truth and to the things that you know that they can contribute and and not get in their way and hold them back, but kind of guide them, direct them a little bit, and get the hell out of their way and get whatever else you can out of their way, too. Um, and I think that that is what Bides is good at is putting people together across those generations and making sure that we do that work together because that is how we're going to fix the things that are broken. So, please, if you take anything away from this conference, think of that. Look to

the people to your left, to your right, at work, at home. Find the people that you can help be better than they are today. and then ask them how they want to be better and let and let them be better in that way, not the way that you think they should be. >> All right. >> Now, uh that's really the bulk. I don't I could go on, but I I want to get off stage. >> Yeah. >> So, uh >> I'm going to without further ado, uh pass along to our next esteemed speaker, [laughter] the lovely Nouse. speaker. [applause] >> Sorry. Now I have to say we have 556. Is that No. [laughter] >> Hi everybody. I am now also known as

Kelly. I hate speaking. I don't like being on microphone. Uh that is why I am behind the scenes doing stuff with my teams. Um, but uh I forced myself to be up here because I want to acknowledge all of the [laughter]

>> stansions are awesome. >> Just because you love stansions. >> Stansion gates. >> We do really love our stansions around here. Um, >> really Great breath. [laughter] >> Um, as should be obvious at this point, um, uh, the staff and volunteers here are [laughter] >> all fired. [laughter] [gasps] >> Um, we're uh, we're all uh very close. We have a lot of fun together. Uh we don't take ourselves too seriously, but we too take the work seriously. Um the the staff who work year round, the volunteers who come in and and come to Vegas and pay for the privilege of hanging out and lifting heavy things and standing in place for a very long time

and other ridiculous asks. Um we're all here because we believe in what we do. We believe in the mission of BIDES. We believe in, as Damon spoke to, changing people's lives. Um, I am a person who has had whose life has been profoundly impacted uh both both personally and professionally by my work with Bides. Um, it is incredibly important to us. Um, but it's not always easy. [laughter] Uh, sore feet and dehydration are just part of the fun. Um, Endless Hotel Buffet is also part of the fun. Um, but I really want to to to make a point of saying how much I appreciate my team and all of the volunteers. Um, it means everything to be able to do this for you

all to help people uh to make connections, to help people level up in their careers. Um, it I just I want you all to please join me in appreciating them and thanking them for all their hard work. >> [applause]

>> Yeah, sorry >> that I was I was >> Please welcome uh Ashley, our head of safety operations. >> [applause] >> How's everyone doing? Are we feeling safe yet? Um, I just want to say thank you to everyone, especially all of my folks in blue shirts. Um, if you are in here right now, can you just stand up so we can give you a hand one more time, please? Please. [laughter]

So, I do have a background. I was in the the army for 13 years. And so I've done everything from, hey, show up at O dark30. Stand here for a while. Watch this box all the way to, hey, the vice president's coming down and we need to actually do a full escort. So I came to Bides in 2019. Had never been to a Bides before. I was like, be what? Okay, well I guess I'll volunteer. And the day I got here, I got adopted by Lolski, who runs Speaker Ops. And he introduced me to all these favorite misfits that I've come to know and love and call crying about things that don't matter and everything else. But I I thought about

how safe I actually felt. And knowing what's going on outside in the world, we all probably were very happy to be here in our bubble these last few days. And a big part of that is making sure that again I want you all to have our little nerdfest in the desert. I don't want you to have any problems because I got to come into our little nerdfest in the desert. And I had a blast and I have lifelong friends up here. And so when I was asked to join staff my second year volunteering, I was confused because I'd only been here once before and I'm like, are you sure? And now in my fifth year,

I'm head of safety ops. I have notes, but [laughter] but it's been really fun. And so last year, if you were here, you remember there was a lot of chaos. There was a lot of chaos at the pool party. There was a lot of chaos around the con. And it was unfortunately, it was our lowest staffing point. And so when I took the reigns this year, we went from 45% staffing to 96% staffing. [applause] So I told all my all my blue shirt friends, I said, "Hey, you all know good people. I know all of you are good people. Bring more people." And so Safety Ops is always looking. So if you would like a way to get involved, you

can always ask me. Um the other thing is that we do also offer medical. Are any of my smart people in here? I saw impostor. Oh, there's one. That's Amber. Hi Amber. And Amber's one of my newest staff members, but stepped up in a humongous way. Also helping coordinate all of the blue shirt folks you saw roaming the con, making sure that they asked if you were good. You probably saw me asking them if they were good because again, NCO in the army. I got to check on my people. We also did offer mental health support this year. So, in the future, if you're having a rough time, and again, this place is overwhelming. I went from

living in the Bay Area to living in the middle of nowhere in New Mexico. I have one neighbor and there's like jack rabbits outside. So I can understand coming to a, you know, big area can be a lot sometimes. Also, you know, you might have a work call. Things just things just come up. So if you need that extra support, we are also offering that as well. The final thing that I'll kind of touch on is that I made it a point to bring lots of people onto my staff that were very, very different from me because I wanted my staff to not only be reflective of our community, but I wanted you all to be comfortable enough

knowing that if there was an issue, if you have feedback, you can tell us. I'm not going to get upset. You won't hurt my feelings, and if you do, I won't tell you till later. So, [laughter] I just again, I really appreciate everybody. I saw lots of smiling faces. I still see smiling faces which means we did our job right because everyone's happy. Um, no, you know, minor minor incidents, more band-aids than anything else. And you know, if it's just band-aids, we're doing a good job. So, I want to thank all of you as attendees. Again, I know we kind of had to be a hard ass about badges. Again, I promise it's for your safety. And just a

reminder, please bring your badge to the pool party. It will save me so much headache. Bring your badge to the pool party. Pretty please. and your ID. >> And your ID if you would like to drink or make sure you have one of these red wristbands. See my friends in blue. We'll make sure you can come straight into the party and have a great time. Um, if you're on my staff, can you stand up if you're in here? I see Andy. I saw Amber. Okay. Well, those are my I have 15 staff members, but here's two of them. So, one more time, let's just give them a hand. They put up with me all my

ridiculous asks and demands and spreadsheets and lists and checklists and checklists for the list and the checklist, but we got through it. So, we have the pool party tonight. I want you all to have a very, very safe time. I will be there incognito, but if you need anything, you are always welcome to come say hi. So, thank you again. [applause]

>> All right. All right. Up next, we got Dichotomy, who runs our Pros versus Joe's CTF, which is one of my favorite things here, but it's also where my son spent all his time this week. So, please come on up and give it a show. Hello, my staff. Come forth, Rose staff. You know the drill. This is not our first game, guys. So, hi, I'm Dichotomy. I run Pro versus Joe CTF. This is We've started here at Besides Las Vegas in 2013. We are a red versus blue offensive defensive CTF. We build out this massive cyber range throughout the year. We invite a bunch of uh Joe's who are going to come in and play defensive against

the red teamers, some of which are in this crew here who are following direction. There we go. And so, you know, it's a massive effort. We deploy a cyber range at Wington University, the school that has been hosting us from the beginning. Uh and the Joe's come in to a cyber range that is just fully uh saturated with red team implants and persistence and C2. Our red team has had weeks and months to prepare in advance and they just are faced day one of hey look there's the adversary and they're all up in our business and we have to deal with that while we maintain services and maintain uptime and try and do points and so it's a lot of fun. It's

a lot of learning. That is our priority, right? We are focused on learn first. Excuse me. Have fun, learn. Let me try this one more time. Learn, have fun, win if you can. We deemphasize the winning because that just kind of brings bad incentives. So, I want to get take a moment to give please give my staff thanks here. This is just a portion of the people. They work hard all year long. Red, blue, gold, gray, they are amazing. Uh, and we had a great turnout this year with the Joe's. A lot of fun competition. Uh, we're very different from a lot of red blue CTFs and that our red team are very, very accommodating

and helpful. A lot of red teamers ran walked around and helped the blues out. You know, hey, have you looked at your firewall lately? Maybe it's a DNS thing. It it might be DNS. Have you checked DNS? Uh, you know, we know the drill. Uh, and so a lot of fun, a lot of shenanigans, a lot of uh nonsense. And the extra format I think worked out really well for us cuz we had today like demos. You know, red team sat down the Linux side, the Windows side. They gave full demos, full disclosure. Normally, we just do a hot wash, which is quick and back and forth questions and as much as we can. So, that was wonderful. Um,

we're also a 501c3 CTF factory incorporated incorporated back in 19 2018 uh nonprofit in that year and we have a wonderful uh board member here now who we love to have on our board. A few others I'm president whatever but you know we thank everyone for their donation. It's my official title. It's on the card. Um, thanks for those who donated. We are always happy to take more donations. There's some swag, t-shirts and coins and stuff. Winners, uh, there were four teams. We lump the blues into different teams and they defend their ranges. Uh, Pink Pony Club came in first, came out of the rear. They were awesome. Uh, we had Peep Chipmunks in second, Bafflegap in third,

and Bid Happens in fourth. But again, it's about the learning and the points don't matter. It's like whose line is it anyway if you've seen that. Um, lastly, I want to give a thanks to our sponsors. Uh, Drop Zone AI, Expel, Hack the Box, Port Swigger. Big shout out to Wilmington University who has hosted us from the beginning all the way back to our first at Bides Delaware 2012. 2013 was our LV. Yeah, it's been a while. Uh, we'll be at Besides New York. We should be at Besides DD De. We are always open to new venues. If you're interested to have us, come talk to us. Um, we'll be opening the call for BSLV next year

around April like usual. And I want to give a big thanks to all the Besides LV support. We would not be here without Bides LV. Thank you to Nouse. Thank you to Reges. Thank you to Safety Ops. Thank you to Q Branch. Thank you to especially to Knock. I love you. Um, and I think that's it. >> Okay. Thank you everyone. >> All right, so our next staffer coming up here probably should need no introduction. She does all the cool swag, the t-shirts, all the stuff. And more importantly, she is the brilliant designer of our what has become our annual crypto challenge uh with the uh choose your own adventure books. So please without further ado put your

hands together for test. [applause]

>> Good afternoon. How many here played the crypto challenge or tried? Very. >> So, I wanted to share that the choose your own crypto challenge was born from me going to Defcon and other conferences and looking at the challenges and wanting to cry and saying I'm too stupid to do these. So, my goal has always been to have a crypto challenge that everyone can play, everyone can enjoy, but then also people who really want a hard challenge can also get that as well. So, it's really a choose your own level. And I really hope next year if you haven't played before and you never played because you thought you couldn't, please give us a try because we're always happy

to help, to teach, and to uh share how to get through things. We had four people, wait, no, three groups finish. The first one was Daniel Jump on his own. He spent, in my estimate, probably 24 solid hours doing the challenge and he finished around 5:30 last night. Uh, and then we had White Night Labs came in second place with their team and then we had Ghost Glitch finish up this afternoon with their team. So, it was pretty fun. Um, I think everyone enjoyed it. We will be around for the rest of the conference to answer questions if you have them. In the past, we've done some really fun themes like Besides Nightvil, Clue, um, originally from

Washington DC, we did a spy version. We've done Pirates for Besides Charm in Baltimore, Dungeons and Dragons. If you were here last year, you saw the Cthulhu one. And if you did not see the back of this year's book, we're hoping for a Nancy Drew mystery next year. So, um, I think those are all my notes. [laughter] My brain is soup right now from all the crypto. But again, please, if you've never played before because you didn't think you could, know that I write these for all of us that feel like we can't do them. So hopefully you'll join us next year and we'll have a lot more fun and more people playing. [applause] We also have leftover flamingos for

everyone who wanted one. They're in the corner over here after the closing ceremonies. Feel free to grab any of the flamingos that you want. [applause] All right. Now, we've been talking a lot about besides staff, besides volunteers, besides participants, and how they make this thing work, but there's a whole other group that makes this thing happen, and it's the staff here at Tuscanyany. And there he is. >> There are two of them in particular who oh you know who are who are critical to our operation and they've been here and they've just they've saved our butts so many times when you know someone comes in and demands a stage in uh overnight or another table on a stage in 15

minutes. uh they take care of it and uh so we have up here to talk about them and and what they do for us Caspian who runs our uh events [clears throat] and so take it away. >> Thanks. [applause] So I'll be really quick. Um Lance is the banquet uh captain for Tuskany. He's been here for ages. Uh he's this guy that you've seen running around wearing, you know, hotel uniform, getting in fights and doing things. Uh and he is absolutely fantastic. This conference would not happen without him and his team along with Debbie who helps us organize everything. And on the other side from on stage, we've got Robert and his team who if you thought it sounded good in

here, that's because of them. It's not me. I mean, I I look like I know what I'm doing. These guys actually do know what they're doing. So, uh, Xanadoo went out and got some awards for both of them. For Lance, we have the chaos coordinator award. Uh, it's just a little plaque. And for Robert, it's the exact same one because they actually do coordinate all the chaos. As Damon said, the crazy last minute requests. [applause] >> You don't get to get away so quick cuz now we're going to talk about the raffle and the auction and we're going to give some stuff away.

>> First off, we want to go ahead and get some numbers out of the way. Um, we still have our lucky loser. Anybody who purchased tickets on Monday, we had four items was not picked up. So, we have a lucky loser that we will pull raffle tickets. So, go ahead and get your raffle tickets out real quick so we can find the winner of this next item. Now pull my >> number is >> 2238625. It is a blue ticket. 22 38625. The A looks like a B. >> Anybody? >> OH, >> first time. >> Come on up. >> I got that for you. You're gonna do the >> He's gonna hand that off. >> Hand me the hand that slip.

>> I'll get out of the way. >> What's he winning? >> What is he winning? >> What is he winning? >> What is he winning? >> It's a pile of >> um He has a NSA journal that's embossed. >> He has some lovely earrings. >> The Sky Talks badges >> and the Sky Talks badges >> and the shaker bottle. >> And a shaker bottle from Snookon. >> Shaker bottle.

This year we had 71 auction items. >> Wow. >> All of them were picked up except for two which are going into live auction. So let's start with Circle City Con badge. It's a 2025 staff. That should be wrong. [laughter] 2015 staff or speaker and a 2016 traveler. I must have gotten my numbers off. Let's go ahead and start the bidding at five. Who will give us five? Got five. >> 10 15 20 25 30. >> Going for 30. 30. >> Oh no. Do we have 35? >> 35. 40. >> Going one. >> Money going to chair. >> 40. Do we have 45? Sweet. 50. Sweet. 55. Sweet. 60. [laughter] >> How many times can we make her say

sweet? >> Let's find out. 65. Anybody going for 65? This is for charity people. >> I'll even give you a receipt. >> Zel and PayPal. [laughter] >> Isn't that great? >> I really thought that was a recording. [laughter] >> 65 60 Who was my 60? Raise your hand. >> 55 >> going once. Going twice. >> 55. [applause]

[laughter] >> You made a wonderful donation. >> Thank you for your donation. All right. >> It's it's a conference. No one. >> All right. Our next item is the lost, oh, sorry, last unassembled DC Zia electronic sampler. And we will start the bid at 15. Sweet. 16. Sorry, I scrubbed that one up. 20 [laughter] 25 30 35 40 the back 45 Oh, 60 70 Oh. >> 80 90 What? 90 >> 100 [laughter] >> I love >> 120 room >> front versus back >> 140 >> 150 180 Any takers >> 200 100 [clears throat] 250. Any takers? Do you want to challenge the man? Come on. This is for charity. >> It looks serious [laughter] though.

>> It does. >> All right. 200. >> CONGRATULATIONS.

>> SO, what's our total >> currently? they are toting up the money and taking payments. So, I will talk a little bit about our silent auction raffle. I've been doing this the last seven years. Um, we have two supported charities each year. This year we have EFF and Valid, which I pronounced properly. [laughter] >> Awareness. >> We had over 30 people donate items to us this year.

We had was it 41 raffle items? Sorry. >> 45 >> 46 actually raffle items and 71 auction [laughter] items. Well, we only had 20 was 24 boxes each day. So, [laughter] [gasps] and 71 auction items. Where did you put the total? Oh, never mind. See it blind. I pay to see everybody. [laughter] So far, adding everything up, we have made over $8,880 for our supported charities this year. [applause]

>> That's a lot of hats. and Besides Las Vegas is gonna uh round up on that to give $5,000 to each of our charity partners. [screaming and cheering] Thank you for everybody who donated. Thank you to everybody who bid, who put bought raffle tickets. Thank you so much for supporting our supported charities. Thank you. >> Oh, no, no, no, no. There's one more person to thank. >> We got one more person to thank. Not only >> do you have one of the most amazing costumes I've seen so far. >> I 100% agree. >> But all the work you've put in on this, Caspian's going to give you a little pin here. >> So for those of you who can't see, which

is nearly everyone, this is a tiny little pin. It's got a heart. It's got a greater than sign and then money. [laughter] >> And that pretty much sums it up. >> And the best taxes in the conference. >> You violating HR code by doing this. I'm sorry. [laughter] I give you my permission. >> Thanks. >> Thank you. >> Seriously, the commitment to that costume is amazing. I love that. It's a >> Thank you very much for everything you've done for us so far. Uh I'm looking forward to working with you in the future.

>> All right. And then there was one. Please rise for her majesty. >> [laughter] >> You're not right. >> Although I did give the registration table a hard time. I'm like, where are my bows? Why is nobody bowing to me? >> I won't let it go to my head. I promise. Um, hi. What do you guys Hi. What do you guys think of the extended Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to I do that every time. >> I'm Cindy Jones. I'm the president of the board for Besides Las Vegas. I have been involved. Thank you. I have been involved personally with Bside since Bides Las Vegas number two in 2010. Um, and I've seen this and experienced

that life-changing thing that we're always talking about and it's fabulous. It's something that just blows my mind. But one of the things I wanted to ask you all, and if I could just, you know, holler, raise your hands, whatever. What do you guys think about the extended format, the two and a half days? What do we think? >> Yeah. >> Wow. All the way in the back with the jumping. >> Yeah. Nice. I like hearing that. I mean, you guys are still here at closing, so that's amazing in itself. So, thank you very much for coming out to closing. Um, [laughter] yeah, this is it was kind of like let's see how this works out. And I'm thinking

it's proven itself. I mean >> I mean, who cares about sample bias? I'm with these people. >> Fair enough. >> Fair enough. So once again, I want to thank everybody who's been involved and that includes all of the participants here. One of the advantages of coming to these events is building out that community, building out making the connection amongst yourselves. I can't tell you how many times I've heard of and personally experienced the the positivity that can come out of these events, whether it's professionally, personally, what have you. I've I have my job, current job because I met a person here last year. So, keep that in mind when you're coming out to these things. Be willing to network with

people, have a conversation, just nerd out with somebody cuz goodness knows we have a lot of that going on in this space. So, enjoy yourselves when you're here. Um, when it comes to the Bides events in total, I literally have nothing but love for this organization. um seeing all the changes it's been able to pro provide and the positive you know forward momentum that people in as individuals and as groups have been able to experience it's just lovely it just I mean literally gives me a warm fuzzy I was writing out my notes and I actually have love faith charity and that is not normally my kind of mantra so I think it's kind of funny anyways um as far as

the faith goes these are some trippy times these are some really trippy times And when we're talking about the ability to connect with a community and potentially find your next role because you might have been part of a layoff, um you don't know where to start. You're thinking about how can I get my messaging out and I want to go ahead and start speaking at a conference and see if I can go ahead and make an impression. I think one of the things we're able to do here is support all of those types of um initiatives and I think we do. um our proving grounds alone, the the keynote aspect that she came back 10 years later and did a

keynote. How cool is that? It's so neat. Um so I think people need to be able to have faith in their community and sometimes that feels a little hard maybe outside of our little space whether we're the the hackers/infosc folks. It's kind of hard right now in some areas to have that kind of that same faith. um think everything's going to be okay, but we can look out for each other. And I think that's one of the things you have that capability of doing when you're here is look out for each other. Look out for yourselves and know that we'll we'll get through it. We'll get through it. And support the people who are having a harder time getting through

it is another the big takeaway I think we need we all need to remember. Um y'all talked about our charities, EFF. Thank you EFF. Um seriously right I mean thank you EFF [applause] for everything they have done and everything they continue to do in that same sort of vein of the taking care of the community. They are there for us. We need to be there for them. So thank you all who contributed and renewed your memberships um or your sponsorships rather. Um keep doing it. They live they only exist because we can support them. So don't forget to do that. Um, Valid, >> Valid, I'm sorry, I had a hard time pronouncing that. I said it wrong too

many times. They're, if you didn't have an opportunity to stop by their booth, be sure to go to veil.org and check out their site. Their goal is to go ahead and provide um, they created an open- source application framework, which is really focused on privacy. Um, that's really important nowadays, I think, in so many areas of all of our lives. So, be sure to uh, check their site out as well. make more donations. They'll take it. Nobody's gonna say no. >> They're bootstrapping. They need it. >> Yeah. Sorry. >> They need a support. >> They need a support. >> Yeah. Startups. >> Yep. >> It's a startup. Do it. Um, something else I want to say

is if you are a sponsor and I did not have a chance to speak to you going making my rounds around the uh conference space, thank you so much. Whether you're working the table or you're providing, you know, you're the one signing the check and providing the support for Besides LV, we can't do that without you. Literally cannot do it without you. >> So sponsors. >> Yes. I don't have the list. Just say the words. Yes, I will. >> Thank you. Yes. That was [laughter] coming. So, thank you. and everybody else, if you guys don't mind just going ahead and giving them a big round of applause because they are they're there for us. [applause]

So, thank you again sponsors. Um, going back to that whole community community thing, we wouldn't be here unless there was, you know, a desire of the community or people who may not feel like they're a part of a community to be someplace and learn something new or to have a chance to interact with people of their own mindset, I guess, is a good way to describe it. Um, so I want to thank all the participants, anybody who's been involved in the organization or the running of or the running around the days of all of you guys make this what it is. And please come back. We uh we want you here. We want to be able to share what we can

with you. Um, and you heard the numbers that Damon provided around the speakers and the submissions. Was that about 50%? >> A little less than >> little less than 50%. Submit your ideas. Submit them. Just do it. We have a call for papers that goes live in the early spring and >> we Yeah, early spring and we we give uh really the one thing I would say there is we give very detailed instructions on how to do a good CFP. Please, you guys have great ideas. A lot of the things that we turn away, it's not because the idea is terrible. It's because it's not written up with all the details we know in order to like give it a proper

adjudication right? >> Yeah. >> So, >> 100%. And using leveraging the resources that we have posted, I know that um I think Shmukcon used to have a really good uh tutorial on how to submit something. >> We we actually built ours off of theirs. >> Well, then that's amazing. I didn't know that. I wasn't involved with >> Well, I I am I am very very okay with stealing. It is fine. >> It's free appropriation. I'm just [laughter] >> There we go. That's the word we're looking for. Thank you. [laughter] >> So, once again, you guys want to contribute. We want to hear what you're thinking because we might be stuck in our own little ruts and you might have

some amazing ideas that would really benefit the entire industry. Bring it here. We're an international convention. Y'all are part of it. Thank you for coming. Enjoy the pool party tonight and uh >> see you next year. >> Yeah. See y'all next year. Very cool. >> Remember, you're changing lives. >> Oh, [applause] >> no. Really, that's it. Go home. >> Bye. >> Bye. See you.