Russian Malware in the Ukraine War

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to the mic but we want to hear it and youtube wants to hear it if you have feedback there are there's a link in the schedule for every talk for feedback use it love it we want to hear it so with that let's get started and please welcome chris i'm out of here what a way to wake up yes i'm still not awake i'm in a different time zone so i'm really happy to see you all in person uh we're coming back uh one of these days post-cop it but getting closer um and i'm you know kind of glad to see the us again because i was having not so much fun in ukraine when the war started

so this talk is going to be about some of the things that i saw firsthand and some of the ongoing things that i'm still working on with various groups of people computer emergency response teams etc and parts of the ukrainian government so if you don't know me to make this slide really short i've written about uh written now 14 technical books um i teach how to uh hack [ __ ] uh whether it be it iot or control systems i have a background in nuclear cyber industry as well as oil and gas and sometimes i have fancy titles like the distinguished chair of the cyber security and emerging technology program at the middle east institute

i always have to say with the posh accent because titles are weird so i like to hack stuff so when i first got this call in february going hey chris would you like to come to ukraine and i'm like i don't know the news looks pretty grim they're like well but you know we're kind of afraid of a nuclear cyber incident you've kind of handled a few of those and i'm like well it might be good if you prepare i kind of delayed my decision for a week and then ended up on the last air france flight to keith on the 20th of february yay great timing right and it was great before the war started

i even tweeted to uh some of my uh girlfriends going hey you know it's affordable here they give you like a little seat thing for your purse we gotta do a girls week weekend and cave yes age like milk uh so i was in ukraine when the [ __ ] started hitting the fan basically and after i got settled into my hotel which happened to be the same hotel that all the journalists were staying at the intercontinental um things started happening very quickly and this i will say the same type of playbook has been playing out and most european and nato countries right now uh just uh following a different timeline so we had uh the first

grouping of attacks which were very interesting because some of them were also used as misinformation by russia as part of their justification to move into the west early on excuse me east early on and then the rest of the ukraine so we're going to talk about fun stuff like who likes clean water except before the russian tanks come in obviously they don't want clean water there um fun fact up until about october of last year um it was still legal to own telecommunications infrastructure in the ukraine as a russian citizen they finally made that illegal for obvious reasons but as we all know it's very hard to change around a bunch of infrastructure so the same stuff that was there

was here when the uh war attack when the war started who likes money we're in vegas baby right yeah yeah especially when a war is about to break out you kind of need cash um the human effects of what's been going on with some of the malware that's been sent to ukraine and uh what happens when your government doesn't function very well how you can recover from that so like i said who likes cash it's awesome i heard some woohoo there so one of the first things that hit while i was in the capital city was uh atm machines stopped working uh throughout the city on monday uh so the 21st of february uh you also couldn't exchange currency

very easily so i come from a euro country the netherlands and uh you know i i didn't really come with a whole bunch of ukrainian currency so made things difficult uh but this is one of these playbook items where russia started uh instilling a bit of fear uh there was russian media saying no we're not gonna start a war with ukraine uh while troops start building up and all sorts of stuff start happening especially in the east um so people wanted cash you know just in case um the ukrainian government had been telling people for months uh to start packing emergency go bags and things of that nature uh because they were actually prepared thinking hey with all these troops

it doesn't look that great i don't know about you but russia they're really crappy neighbors uh so um people couldn't get money out sometimes they could not log into their banking account now imagine if you're like oh man russian troops are surrounding us and i can't get money out and i have kids or family or someone i have to worry about um and i can't go north because that's where belarus is kind of close to belarus the capital city couldn't go you know east because that's where lots of russian troops were amassing um so how do you get through without this thing called credit cards and google pay and apple pay ukraine for the war it's actually quite uh

advanced in its digital technology so most places use a lot of apple pay or google pay but what's his cash stuff so that began then in the east the uh province of luhansk all of a sudden uh all of their water facilities were hit by a cyber attack uh the russian government tried to say look at what ukraine is doing to our citizens they're cutting off water to our citizens that's why we have the right to protect ethnic russians in the east um obviously that was not the case ukraine had no reason to launch cyber attacks against the water infrastructure in the east but uh things can be used and misused a lot when it comes to war

so as uh i was there for the 24th getting woken up by shelling and as the sun rose could see columns of smoke and more [ __ ] getting blown up and we decided to evacuate because you know it's kind of a good idea when you're told there's a column of tanks coming to the capital city from russia and you don't know if they're going to bomb you and oh look at our evacuation point we can see paratroopers in the sky and they're not ukrainian so uh it was kind of a good idea to get the hell out of the capital city and that also meant being on a very long ride to the border

we actually chose syria romania because to the west everyone was heading there so there were traffic jams going to poland obviously you could not go to the north to belarus or the east where the russian troops were coming in luckily for a win for technologists a teenage boy used his personal drone and saw the column of tanks and was able to contact the ukrainian army and they were able to destroy that column of tanks before they actually got to the capital city so uh win-win hey that's why i love to see kids here uh doing hacking stuff because you know hey prove positive you can actually change things and save lives with it so we had a a very long ride to the border

and a bus well we call it a bus in europe but it's a sprinter van from mercedes with uh that fit 26 people um my friend todd here has a sprinter van and you look inside and you're like 26 people fit in here yes because we're european so we like to squeeze into small places uh so we had a convoy a car and one of these sprinter vans and there were three people driving the two vehicles myself being one of them for driving 24 hours straight kind of thing then trying to get to the border by the way they were kids i got to set the stage because i'm not used to kids they don't let you

sleep holy crud if you're a parent i'm so sorry i sympathize right luckily they thought we were just on a camping trip uh so uh you know they didn't realize and i'm glad they didn't that their home in the capital city was gone they had no way to see their grandparents again uh so camping trip it is so we get close to the border we're like [ __ ] oh it's uh let's see it's nine kilometers it's about six miles long uh just the chaotic uh drive to the border because ukraine required an exit procedure and uh when i say a six mile long line that's like oh well maybe you can get through in four to six hours no no no no no no

is days and the reason being uh which i found out the first night we spent the night in the bus waiting near the border with the kids who did not let me sleep um was that uh the border patrol in the ukraine had been hit by a wiper virus so when we got close enough to actually speak to senior officials at the border patrol um that's when uh i could uh actually verify with them what was going on uh what assistance was needed and so forth now imagine the picture that you see in the news of all these cars lined up all around trying to get the hell out of ukraine right but they were all on

pencil and paper using a landline to double check things because the wiper virus removed their database in a series of databases so um this was a bad thing because it was really [ __ ] cold and uh there was a petrol station or gasoline station on each side of the road about three miles four miles back from the border and uh you know for us and i guess one lady did not want to wait or go to the forest and she actually froze to death standing in line waiting to use the toilet at this petrol station gasoline was limited to buy so for example we had to leave only the seat heaters on for myself and the

alternate driver to keep moving all night long but we couldn't afford the fuel to heat the rest of the bus so everybody just piled underneath piles of clothes because we did not know if we would be able to have enough fuel for four or five days to wait on the border with heat so imagine cars that ran out of gas that had handicapped folks that had babies etc etc and there was no extra food or water or you know a toilet that you could use without chancing up freezing to death all because of a malware attack that's one thing we have to understand as technologists is this stuff now has really real world consequences uh it isn't just a news item that goes

ooh another exploit i can use well yeah but then sometimes i kill people and in this case this was one of the things so i'm gonna actually try to play this video if not i will talk around what it says

hold on this is the situation that happened this was one of our passengers when me and chris uh had a chance to go out in ukraine so we were at the queue and uh we found out that the security like the the system the informatics system of uh the border like went down so that's why they took a break break in the night because they didn't have x computers and they couldn't verify documents for people getting out of their country and at that point uh chris who was uh from what under the trees who was in accounting ukraine to help them with uh cyber attacks and all that that stuff uh had the chance to go there and talk with

them and help them and guide them to some directions and she was also working as we speak on this as well so that's why we had a chance of me being with chris there we had a chance to to be practicing prioritized in front of the queue and be able to crowd the border in order for chris to be able to help them further with what happened in there with the cyber event so it was very interesting because we got to bypass about three or four days of waiting in line at the border they prioritize us because it seems that i may or may not make fun of putin and there may or may not have been some

various hit lists of people that they were trying to find i know during our journey we ran into wagner group twice who tried to stop us and tried to shoot at us in south central ukraine so this particular chap by the way very interesting guy as we were trying to evacuate kiev we had a group of americans who panicked with i swear to god it seemed like 10 large pieces of luggage they're like no we're going to unload we'll find something without speaking ukrainian and they thought that they were going to hail a cab or something with 10 pieces of luggage so in the meantime we found this group of eight romanians who are like

what the hell is going on we were just brought here for a business trip and when we tried to call the company they're like new phone who's this right you're like [ __ ] me so we loaded them on and turns out he's the most famous journalist in romania so he also documented the whole thing uh the microsoft ceo considers this now the border patrol attack the first instance of a geneva convention violation using digital means but if you want to follow him he's on instagram he's a really cool guy now with this there are also other things that went on um no one including microsoft has a position if this was on purpose or just because it had been attached to

the border patrol so was it targeted or not who knows one of the things it took out was the entire orphan database and children in the care system in ukraine so suddenly hundreds of thousands of children did not have any sort of identification now if you're trying to cross a border and you might not have all the paperwork or one of your neighbors kids or whatever how are you going to cross that border uh when they might not have id hey yeah i'll take some of the kids from the orphanage shove them in my car you get to the border no sorry we suggest uh suspect you might be child trafficking because that happens during war

so what do you do so a lot of kids could not get out um because of that uh because i worked with several groups who were trying to find care homes in various countries for uh regular orphaned kids and also disabled orphan kids they could not get out in time had to be turned around at the border sometimes uh one particular case they were we had over 50 cases that had uh sheltered in the theater in mario poll and even though there were signs outside that said you know don't don't kill us there's kids in here um the russians destroyed that uh theater and we lost most of those orphaned children because they had not been able

to get out before due to a wiper virus so another case of [ __ ] this is what technology does also the russians have been kidnapping children there's over 200 kids who have already been pushed over to russia infiltration camps if they don't have proper id how are they going to ever get back after this grim war ever ends they're now stuck in russia for the rest of their lives so speaking of id uh ukraine also has this uh great uh id application called the daria system and it sounds fantastic except during more time um so it'll store your id your tax information your car registration your vaccination status so forth um so if you are like oh no i didn't

grab all of my stuff because they shelled my neighbor's house and mine caught on fire you thought hey let's use this darya app well the russians started messing with it and there were times that the service was completely unavailable so you were hopeful that when he got up to the border and if this was your only stuff they could actually get through because of some of these interruptions a couple of the countries that boarded with ukraine one of which was romania one which was moldova said if you don't have id we understand just cross the border which was very unusual at the time but with that the russians took a whole bunch of personally identifiable

information as you can imagine privacy does not exist during a war just the way it is so um it's one of these situations where what do you do when you are trying to leave a war zone or you think that uh there might be safe areas i don't know if this map will work but we'll try it so that shows you an idea of some of the uh bombing and timelines of attack uh it's not the greatest one i could use a different map let's just put it this way all the little red dots and so forth that are also entering the center part are bombs and shelling that russia has done so even early on

you weren't safe in particular areas a lot of people headed to the south thinking they would be safe and then the russians moved more towards the southwest so one of these sayings like what do you do crap how many of you have ever studied abroad have your children study abroad wanted to study abroad yeah quite a few you know it sounds like a cool experience so um it was further complicated by the fact that there were over 25 000 international students in ukraine when the war started the ukraine has been known for generations now to be a low-cost high-quality country to get degrees and advanced degrees for the global south so that meant that there were a lot of

people from age 16 onward studying to be doctors or lawyers or maritime staff or computer science who might not speak fluent ukrainian at least not yet who did not look like they were ukrainians we're also stuck uh because some of the major university areas kirsten which you keep hearing about in the news sumi which is almost directly on the russian border uh those places were so close to the border they were taken over within hours so what do you do if you're also a foreign national and you've just gotten back to school after covet then you're like crap they're trying to kill me um so there were a lot of complications with that as well

uh now there's a lot of ongoing stuff that keeps occurring uh there's more and more viper viruses uh i like to say uh wipers are like disco every few years they come back and they become like a fashionable attack tool because this year is the 10th anniversary of a massive wiper virus the first massive wiper virus ever used in such capacity the iranians attacked saudi aramco and almost destabilized destabilize the global economy there's a lot of surveillance wear and you know that's kind of expected but there's also a lot of uh dirty tricks that are going on with it i'm sorry i've got an interruption yeah you made a speaker request yes now unfortunately these sides

cannot condone or promote any expressions of violence of any kind but i hope you asked for a picture of putin under a ukrainian tractor i have here for you a picture [Music] that's great

i have here for you a ukrainian tractor and whatever you do with this once i give it to you is up to you i have no control all right thank you so much [Music]

um so some of the things i've been working on is working with quite a few groups to help get people out especially the most vulnerable folks uh we had a situation of an elderly care home where most people had alzheimer's and dementia and the staff fled so that could be your grandparents you know think about that uh so things were happening um so we've had cases where russia has uh explicitly targeted some of our groups uh gotten on the communications channel and go hey so you're gonna go rescue a family really let's kill the family before you get there or let's pretend to be a family and then kidnap you as an aid worker and

charge 50 000 to get you back for a ransom uh or at the very least beat the living crap out of you and leave you for debt as an aid worker because we know where you're going because of surveillance where and most ngos are like let's say people what is cyber security let's say people those are the hard you know choices you have to make um so those who have had uh contact on uh ukrainian telecoms a lot of them including myself were rerouted back to ukraine and into russia uh just on our uh mobile phones even though we were in the rest of europe uh there have been cases where refugees who have been public about their stories

have gotten bombarded with pictures such as hacked away bodies corpses set on fire yay fantastic then there's been a lot of disinformation misinformation mal information and propaganda going on especially in the former soviet states nato countries have been attacked cyber attacked over and over again some countries have had to shut off geographic access outside of their country like albania romania and parts of moldovan government as well so a lot of shiznits still going on unfortunately things keep getting worse uh we now have a series of uh because russia seems to love to rig nuclear power plants with explosives or shoot at it but also what are they doing if they've now completely gone bonkers for a scorch and

burn policy what are they going to do on the cyber front not just ukraine but to other supporting countries listed on their unfriendly list we are now unfriendly i'm a friendly person unless you're putin remember step on putin um so they put in some references but you can easily search i don't want to put too many references on um i left time for questions try to keep them short no word statements like the board doesn't exist um yes it does uh so uh no political statements and so i'll leave this up at the end thank you everybody all journalists to help and if you like me and would like to work with me i am looking for a job so

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anybody have any questions raise your hand and i will save this red bull and hopefully i'll drink it there's no way on earth this mic is going to reach there so if you don't mind popping up if you step on putin everybody who has the questions come here up on putin

i deal with a lot of the um the rushy so i'm a threat analyst at netskope um i do a lot of um analysis on uh question malware and what comes in and the point i've been really trying to prove um is that i i genuinely believe that cyber is the next aspect of war um and i wanted to ask you if that's something that you believe as well if um specifically location uh um if you believe that there's a correlation between where the malware is hitting and where the kinetic attacks are going to come does that make sense yeah so is there a relationship between the kinetic attacks and cyber attacks to a certain extent absolutely as for example

we saw early on in the war that russia had tried to take out the satellite communications and zielinski's comms but also satellite phones unfortunately as we all know oh people network segment and there's this thing called air gap wasn't true took out the french space programs communications a bunch of maritime communications because they didn't really satellite phone communications yeah you know whatever so um so before that attack uh then they started another shelling campaign hoping to be undercover but that was not the case so there is a relationship between the two there seems to be a preparation uh with cyber and then physical something next question pop on up

[Music] so so one of the questions i have is you mentioned that there are no coincidences in war makes total sense what were some of the rumblings some of the things that happened beforehand that you know you maybe became aware of or that maybe we can watch for because if russia's not done russia's not done well so there were some oddities uh such as when they started switching their handheld radio system so it was alerted uh and that was i don't know six hours before they started shelling the capital uh there were a few oddities and also um watching uh the mean generation coming out of certain countries that were going to be more pro-russian

started kicking off uh so it was like in preparation for uh so there are certain things you know they want to win the hearts and minds as well as shoot anybody that doesn't agree with them so you know to do that there has to be a process beforehand and then coinciding with it as well so yes there are certain precursors i have more time for questions putin still needs feet footprints come come on over here don't pee cause somebody will have to clean it up don't be ambassador let's be closer to the mic yeah i'm not gonna trip all day all right um so uh i was paying attention to the build-up of the war

and even in january the analysts that i was reading basically had the start date of the war within a 48-hour window they're like he's gonna wait till after the olympics it's gonna be right in here how much of that do are you aware was ukrainian intelligence and how much of that was just the entire international community you know putting all their resources together to nail this down okay so as the war started building up there were lots of people who said hey it's going to be on this date or that date or whatever which was a good move on russia's part because they're like hey those are the days we're definitely not going to attack

um we're going to make them spin up get all their their people tired when you have to do these things get kind of fatigued also it allowed for the ukrainians themselves to go man this is always in the news maybe they're right about media not being the greatest because the westerners keep saying there's a war and there's no war yet so complaints complacency um but uh at the same time some people don't understand putin really likes numerology so when the first russian troops started going through the east stepping over that border which was on 22nd of february 2022 he loves doing things like that uh look at when they started moving into georgia yeah it's great um so that's

when the big first big escalation occurred um so yeah there were a lot of things said but you see they didn't think about numerology and all the yes men uh and a few other things when the war started so i don't know hope that answers it i still have time for more questions putin loves to be stomped on come on up i mean he he also likes other things like big burly men put no shirt on [Music] um one of the questions i have is the relationship between putin utilizing we see the use of hacktivism but also the engagement of the ransomware gangs and to what extent did you see that being used and how would that carry forward

so fun fact about two years ago russia decriminalized basically any hacking that occurs in russia as long as it's outbound and it does not affect russian entities yay so this has been going on for a while i mean if you're cut i'm gonna hiccup if your country's at war why wouldn't you use hackers um also if you want to get a lot of people involved on your side who are hackers are not going to use a lot of exotic tools it's going to take too long it's going to cost too much but ransomware yeah you just gotta tweak a few things you don't have to get the money you just have to destroy um so yeah

yeah i think uh more and more this is going to occur and uh you know the 2020 suck so yeah there you go come on up you're easier to come up this way don't trip on your way back please for the love of god um given your global experience i'm curious what the level of sophistication from the russians is they obviously seem very motivated but how technically savvy are they they are not very technically savvy um and they also don't necessarily understand ukrainian culture or the language necessarily because there's been a lot of very weird attacks was it last week i think was last week so tired from jet lag maybe this week before i was at mch 2022 and we had a

panel uh on some of the things that were going on in ukraine with one of the panelists remote dialing in from ukraine and so she went through uh some instances where there was a spin on a government entity name uh for a website that nothing to do with the government entity and because that's more like a colloquialism for ukrainian uh they were attacking those instead of some of the actual government websites um so in her opinion most of stuff that they've seen is not very sophisticated so time for some questions i've got one up here and we'll start getting you lined up come on no no keep just don't trip hold so i guess my question does a follow-on

uh from the previous question which is if russia's not particularly sophisticated was it that the ukrainian infrastructure wasn't well designed or oh i have to ask the question because yeah yeah who thinks that the us government the pentacle of cyber security is prepared to go to war right now with its infrastructure for the record nobody raised their hand uh so before the war there was already a struggle and people just accepted that cyber attacks would happen like when you know the atm machines weren't working they're like oh that's just another cyber attack from russia we might not have electricity soon oh well russia um because it's been expected but at the same time ukraine was not a wealthy

country well unless you're an oligarch that's a different story um so they didn't have top of the line stuff it was hard to keep uh experts in the country when the rate of pay retirement is 300 us dollars awesome so if that gives you an idea of their pay range how do you retain those people and then oh yeah we've been at war since 2014 with the russians um so they were in a very unique position um they were perhaps a bit more vulnerable than the us but perhaps not [Music] so yeah it was a quagmire before the war luckily they understand crisis and were able to get a lot of things spun up and changed

over during the war all right next question so late in 2021 they were starting to clone they were starting to clone the government websites of ukraine how effective do you think that was with this uh with the spread of malware and disinformation campaigns early on wow i think that they were weirdly successful in some ways with some of the cloned web sub sites for people who didn't know any better um but you know you always get those people it's a nigerian print scam almost like if you're gonna believe this with all the misspellings we can get you for money it's a test um so they did do a pretty good job with some of the propaganda

and all the misinformation and all that kind of stuff so they were geared up and ready especially with former uh soviet states near the border i remember by the time we arrived in bucharest i was punched my hotel clerk because i was going around on facebook that only the wealthy ukrainians got out uh and why on earth are romanians helping all these wealthy ukrainians when we have so much poverty here and she repeated that to me and i'm like dude are you i'm serious uh you know i'm with the family with two kids and they got two bags that's all they own now but it was prepped on different types of social media uh with some of this negative sentiment

uh so in a way it was successful in a way like when they made this deep fake of zilinski surrendering to russia people just laughed their ass off so in other ways they were not winning but they do a damn good job um i have room let's see okay okay seven minutes it's either that or you will listen to me sing capella it's always nice to step on foot in right yeah uh so what do you think we as an industry can learn and do we need to prepare for russia in the following months and also yeah you all touched on on it already do you think russians will start ransom destroying nato countries the the time to prepare

was last year but now we have a war where all sorts of stuff is hitting neo nato does not want to enter the war so they're like oh go ahead and take our our space satellite communications down go ahead and you know hit all sorts of banking stuff in finland sure we're not gonna physically go in this war um so there there's a lot of stuff uh that's going on and it's uh heating up um do i think that they'll restore stuff well let's see um how many of you knew that costa rica for about a month was held uh yeah it was helped by ransomware from russians who wanted 50 million to allow them to take in tax revenue again in

some of their medical system so i saw about five people uh the uh costa rica is a protectorate of the us they don't have a military um and so just being a protectorate has entered them into the war awesome not awesome another place that russia is hitting is in your supply chain for those small to medium-sized businesses where it's crucial that your business stays up because you're a unique vendor but oh by the way you probably don't have great cyber security or do loads of testing or can afford external pen tests and a fancy deloitte consultant will charge you eighty thousand just to shake your hand uh so um those are some of the areas

that really need to prepare and i wish they had better grants and easier grants for small to medium-sized businesses that need to up their security so i have time for like one to two more questions you can also just come up and step on putin i don't mind

can you help us understand the difference in dmvp like can you help us understand the difference with uh dmvp as in what each one of those means oh sure so because the industry loves fancy acronyms dm mp i had to remember what it was yesterday because sometimes i forget disinformation misinformation mal information and propaganda there's some some subtle but interesting differences uh so propaganda might be to try to get you to support certain things uh nowadays there's a fake but realistic-looking media websites that'll uh actually advertise some of this uh various not so great uh truthful information and uh set up propaganda as a whole now with that misinformation tries to divert you disinformation will try to have

a sliver of truth to make it believable mal information is just malicious as [ __ ] um like we've had some instances of people working for aid organizations trying to get people out of ukraine and suddenly they've been slandered as child pedophiles with fake mug shots put up on facebook and once a malicious rumor gets started you're you're hosed how do you get rid of that right um so we've seen a lot of this go on and it's still continuing yeah so it's uh it's very unfortunate um i wish the u.s uh had not closed their their office of anti-propaganda during the bush senior um presidency because they didn't think it was important don't um so yeah so there you go i have

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uh given your experience with russia how do you extrapolate that with china taiwan and those other situations where we might not be able to dance around it and avoid it like nato has with russia yeah so i think most of us believe that china's been checking out going hey how's russia being treated they can still go get around stuff oh when can i get taiwan in my grubby little hands [Music] um so some countries have been watching taiwan very closely uh also looking at how you can destabilize things early on before you actually have physical troops i mean you know why not if i was an evil dictator i would do the same thing i'm also looking for a job as an evil

dictator i'm just saying i'd be very good at it um so things are being looked at yeah swords are rattling there's chinese jets around taiwan right now because of pelosi visit it's just another day nothing's crazier than nation stay crazy i thought some of my relationships were bad but no so there you go folks um i will have putin up here for the next couple of minutes until the next speaker comes up and i will take the conversation outside