
In the benefit side, you have reduced costs because you don't have to maintain um pool of highly trained uh IT specialists and um and you have flexibility and innovation because uh intelligence agency they are bureaucratic institutions and we know that [laughter] this type of institution are not the best to be super innovative. native super flexible. So this is something they can mobilize from uh uh thread actors that are out there uh on the underground that are way more agile uh than than uh state actors.