Hablamos con las Empresas que participan en EkoKids en BSides Colombia 2025

Well hello everyone we are in a new space prior to Visites Colombia and today we wanted to bring the protagonists of Eco Kids and tell them a little more about everything that is going to be happening besides making recognition to these companies and people who are behind make that coquit be a reality and they are the people who are going to be sharing with our children in the space that we have opened this year within besides colombia Sol, I would like to leave you in charge of this entire interview and to be able to start talking seriously with you, that you are the protagonists of this space. Welcome and thank you very much for being here. Well, first of

all, once again, thank you to Gio for trusting me, for trusting the Coquit project and for generously inviting us to Colombia. It fills my soul to be there with more children, spreading. And what to say about Eli, Gary, Freddy, Falta John too, that generously I don't call them workshop workers, engineers, or businessmen, nothing. In reality, for me they are guardians of being. Why? Because they are people, for me, the people who have that look towards childhood, towards the smallest of society, offering their time, their wisdom, to be able to be. For me it is important that we, as responsible adults, parents, educators, let our children be recognized And well, what better way than through the playful,

right? Which is through this robot programming, the boys can create and explore their imagination there. So well, I don't know, who wants to start telling what proposal they prepared for the boys in B-Side Colombia? Eli, Eli, Eli, when I met Eli I was taking notes for Eli, I don't know if I'm going to remember everything, everything you say. The truth is that she is extremely generous and has an amazing conception of what it is to work with boys. So, go Eli, all to you. Good morning, thank you very much. I am part of the team of Pygmalion. Pygmalion is a is to the population, what we do and our mission is to enhance human talent for

its insertion in the 4.0 industry through technological tools that take us out of those paradigms of saying: "the boys can't, we don't have a computer, we don't have the economic resources, so we can't access that knowledge". Yes, we have built a whole methodology to bring the children closer, not only the children, but here we are going to focus on the children because it will be our audience on Saturday, but to the entire population, from programming courses, from web development from scratch, to electronic courses that will enhance that knowledge. To tell you more about what we are going to do on Saturday, I invite Freddy, Freddy is our founder and our leader of operations, the one

who will carry the experience for children from 7 to 12 years old, which is a challenge that we call explorers. What else? How are you? Thank you very much for the invitation. I am Freddy Cárdenas, what Elizabeth told me 18 years ago. we have been consolidating this process with a precedent, and that is that Pygmalion comes out as an informal derivation as an informal spin-off of the University of Antioquia, where in 2004 we set up the robotic seeders with the interest of solving a problem and it was that the research group did not find trained talent to continue with a lot of things that were being done. That trained talent and it is connected with what we are going to do on

Saturday We found that there were guys with a lot of desire, but they didn't have what we understood over the years and that consolidated. Greetings over there to Elkin Botero who is greeting you as he did at the Carmen Emano Festival, an important fight. Greetings. how to talk about computational thinking we are already consolidating it in a clearer way conceptually but when we started back in 2004 we did not understand that what are the active methodologies then how give the possibility to the boys and give us the possibility that they learn about laterality, that they learn about algorithmic step-by-step, how they learn through the game, how they consolidate neural networks that are consolidated through the game. I

am an electronic engineer at the University of Antioquia, I learned to make robots, but I realized that the problem was not the robots, the problem is how the boys learn to sequence then if a specialization in neurodevelopment and learning to understand how we generate knowledge how they connect the networks then what we want to do is from the game which is the way in which the neurons connect more easily and a process is generated of most important consolidation the boys to count, right? They learn to do a lateralization issue, they learn to work their work memory and strengthen short-term memory issues and how they learn to generate all this kind of things with some elements that

we work that are playful, so we have some robots for children younger, a track, then largely that is what we are going to do on Saturday with this invitation that you make us. Great. Don't spoil it, don't tell us exactly what. Don't tell the surprise. I loved it, I loved that look too, Freddy, of, in the face of the lack of resources, start sowing, right? For tomorrow, right? Because you were found at the university, you were found with that situation already with young adults, young adults. That's why I love this, being able to go a little further and go down, and go down to the youngest, regardless of what to think for a future that is

going to lack that resource from technology. If you studied what neuroscience is, how important it is for them this issue of lateral thinking, the critical spirit, So, well, I loved having that look, that vision, how good, how good. Something important and it is a criticism of the system, what is happening is that we want young people, 18, 20 years old or older, like Elizabeth's age, learn to program and but it is that the windows of opportunity and you have to work them from a young age then it will be very difficult for them to learn to program if they do not know how to algorithm if they do not have a critical thinking if they do not distinguish

the left and the right if they have mathematical difficulties so that is why the importance of working with the youngest or working with the most adults on much more basic issues not to talk about the code or about industry 4.0, but to talk about basic concepts like building a 10-story building. We can't talk about building floors 7, 8 and 9 if we don't have clear foundations, which is much easier. to build those bases when they are much smaller, but that can also be done in the larger ones, but you have to focus on building those bases. Then I'm going to give you my perspective regarding my profession and the importance of working through the game for the boys. The lucky ones who are the boys, if they

can access this type of activities. So, Gary, do you want to tell us? What did you prepare? Well, what I prepared is a surprise. But I did want to talk to you a little about the work we are doing. Well, we are at Eduvótica. Well, Eduvótica is an idea that started last year. We are new, we are new. I am an electronic engineer from the Technological University here in Bolívar and, well, I was always part of the robotics club of the university at the time, everything related to digital electronics, signal processing. But I loved robotics and what can be done. Then I was working in other areas of software for a long time, until last year, when I decided, I have

two children, I have a 7-year-old and an 8-year-old. And I've always been at ease. I need to teach them. If they don't want to be electronic engineers, then no, but I would like to teach them what I know, because I feel that technology and robotics, programming are tools that at this time are very useful not only to learn robotics and programming, but to integrate many knowledge of mathematics, many knowledge of biology, many knowledge of physics, which they learn naturally without suddenly learning formulas or learning too complex things, right? I think they can even have knowledge at the university level with the game, yes? So I started last year with my children to teach them. I realized how their eyes were awakening seeing how they

with, well, the little we could do playing with sensors, playing with boards, even with code. Obviously, at their level, they could solve problems that they suddenly thought about, like, "What do you want to do with a robot?" "No, I want to do this." So, that thought was what gave rise to Eduvótica, the fact of providing solutions, even to our society, with technology. Not only, suddenly, to stay on a topic in a matter of technological knowledge, or what can also be achieved with this, develop higher order skills in children, greater concentration, abstraction, but also the fact of thinking about how I translate this to my surroundings, to my environment. How can I solve a real problem that I am

initially living in my house, in my game, and then extrapolate that to your environment, to your city, and learn to see the technology from that point of view, how they can impact their environment and society with technology. And that was the engine that we were driven to start last year. to start doing the workshops and to build a material also so that the children could learn this in a very simple way. I really like teaching, I really like teaching, I really like working with children. The truth is that for me it is a joy, it is a It is a great satisfaction to see how they learn, how they get excited, how they are happy when they are learning this kind of thing, learning new things

in general. And well, I hope that this can also be replicated in the workshop that we are going to do at the University of Antioquia. Yes, yes, sure. Shio, do you want to ask the boys something? I find it super interesting everything I hear from them. You know that every time I hear more about the space it's even more charming. Fred and Gary said two interesting things about how to wake up those desires, because something that we see, and I tell you from this side of Visites and cybersecurity issues, It's like, what's going to happen with those next generations? I don't know if we all have the same concern, but it's like, who's going to get in? Who's going to get there? How are they going

to get there? How are they going to have the tools? Because I definitely take something that Freddy was saying, education has changed. I think that the same structure of thinking of the boys also changes and it is not the same structure of ours that we were expecting to have a school, go to a university, graduate, have our profession. And that is a challenge that seems very interesting to me to see it from here, and I think that with this that you are doing, it is precisely that impulse for these new generations to have other tools that are not going to be the same as ours, but that will allow them to become those engineers of

tomorrow, to be those people who are going to be on cybersecurity issues, in different... in whatever they want to be at the moment they have to be. but from there I find it super interesting what you contribute, so it was like that and I continue, I loved it here and well with a thousand questions, but hey, you already have the idea of ​​where it goes and that's what I wanted to tell you. What I wanted to add was that I have a different look, that is the fascinating thing about being unique human beings, right? Because even if we have the same situation, we see it differently. I see a great opportunity that the kids have and that thanks to you, the kids can access this, to

see what they like, to start knowing their being, I always say that when we work with children we have to take care of them, it's like the Christmas cup when you take out the cups to celebrate the holidays, you see, until you take them out and you just put them on the table, it's like, ah, you relax. Well, that's the soul of the creatures for me. So we have to take care of them that way and the only way we know is the one they taught us, that we are going to have a career for life, that... For example, with the ambition, I always repeat the same thing, but it is this, sometimes with the ambition to take care of them, that they are happy, that they are good

people, we are unfortunately, we stop at their mistake and we are continuously correcting them. There we lose the possibility of seeing them, what is their best attitude, what they want to be and they lose the opportunity to meet. So, what is important to me? That they, in these spaces, make mistakes without any challenge. Because nobody challenges them, they are playing. So, they create, they invent, they go beyond what one can say. Do you know what it is for? For prevention. For prevention in general. The kids learn in those spaces what they like and what they don't like. And that's very important. Why? Because we avoid the prevention of abuse, the prevention of bullying, the prevention of intense relationships, the prevention of... or the power to

say that "no, I don't want this" or "I don't like this". But why can he do it? Because he already tried playing with other things. No, I don't like doing that kind of robot, I don't like playing this game, I don't like that. I mean, do I explain myself? There is something important and it is the magic of doing. I will take the opportunity to greet the people of RoboKids here in Neiva, Daniel Melo in Bucaramanga, who is in the state connecting. From that great network that we have managed to build, that we are co-participants, we have led Roborreis, we have led the week of innovation and robotics for all those years. The magic of doing, because I can tell you that I don't like chocolate, but

I've never tried chocolate, right? But when I taste the chocolate and say, "Oh, what a fascination, what an interesting thing, this flavor exploded in me." And I can't explain it to you in words. How do I explain to you that the chocolate exploded in my hair? no, it's not that I'm passionate about it and it connects with the being deeply, so why do I do this repeatedly and I don't get tired because my being connects, but it connects from the being and the being has a relationship very powerful with the game I did it because I was playing true and I did not realize the hours passed and I kept playing and that game if that game makes us also productive and

I do not mean simply to produce money that is important but to produce conditions of life for me that I am healthier from my mind that I am healthier from my spirit and greetings for here to mister robot from Monterrey Mexico that is connecting all and what you said right now remember your name please that you are here fix 3r Giovanni - Giovanni, education changed us. What changed us was the world, in addition to education, right? So we have to change education, and education does not mean that education has been bad, the education we received, I learned to read, to multiply, many things, and traditional education is very valuable, but we have to put other elements that allow us to connect at a

speed of the world that we have to understand, the world is moving very fast, so we can't just be in spaces where we learn theoretical topics, but from practice we have to connect with our tastes, with our being, and in that way project ourselves to a world that has a speed that we have to understand. Yes, and also one of the things that must be highlighted is that the boys that we are educating now are boys who were born in technology. They were born... I was 55 years old, I uploaded the face-to-face of black and white television when color was born, there was no black and white anymore. But well, the boys were already born with technology. So we adults have to really give that possibility to the boys

because it is a world that we do not know. And additionally, I think that there is an additional awareness that we did not have before, because I don't know, I think that in general it happened to us that it was like, well, you have to study this, this, this, not even art or something like that because that is not going to give you food. and it was another totally different thought than what we have and we can give to our children, to the kids of today, which is very different, very from being, and from there connect with who you are, with what you actually want, what you really love, that that also makes a difference

precisely in the way we can present things to you. and that what you say, excuse me, I am a psychologist, when I am going to understand the computational thinking from my social sciences, but allowing each one to have a teamwork from the methodology, I can understand that I can develop my personality, my taste, What Giovanni was saying is that it is not simply a closed knowledge. You were born to be an accountant, you cannot go to the arts. Yes, I can go to the arts, I can go to start painting and understand that I am developing a certain knowledge and a certain taste that is fitting into this society because I am part of it. That is

why we work a lot, we work as a team. where you don't just build it yourself, but we're going to strengthen that teamwork and we see it a lot in competitions, like the kids, there's one who's fascinated with programming and gets into that world and gets carried away by programming and takes out the code and takes it out of the stadium, but there's also the one who likes mechanics and is the one who builds the robot and says the robot needs these components to achieve that algorithm that you are creating. So that's how we see that set of knowledge that is passionate about boys and that is not something imposed. The father came to the mother, the teacher, and said: "You have to..." He was getting involved

and was building his being and discovering what he liked, but also acquiring new knowledge because he is with the partner who knows how to program, then he develops those skills. Then those knowledge are gathered and a more intimate being is formed. elisabeth who is able to go and look for the engine that the team lacks because it is able to relate to the other and bring the robot of the team that speaks Mandarin and that did not understand how he did but but he brought the engine and the code that they needed The issue of computational thinking is very important, which is not related to computers, but is related to how we think in a sequential

way, how we attract each other, how we divide the big problems into smaller problems and from that we generate methods, methodologies that allow to solve problems, not necessarily from technology, but technology, the basis is human thinking. So, think in an organized way that doesn't necessarily have to do with the fact that I have to develop technology, but at the end of the day, what the human being does is generate technology, maybe not so formally, And that is achieved thanks to the fact that computational thinking helps all those processes and how STEM The combination of science, technology, engineering, mathematics, with learning based on projects allows all these types of concepts to be generated, allows skills to be generated and allows those skills to solve problems in the end. A

child in a neighborhood in our country, in Medellín, but it can also be in Bucaramanga, it can also be in... Where did you say you are, Gary? In Cincelejo? Bolívar, how do we make sure that the boys solve a school harassment issue? If they have computational thinking, they will solve it much easier than if they don't have it. Well, coming back to close the space, Freddy made a comparison, I don't like chocolate because I've never tried it. Well, parents have to come here, because the parents are the ones who didn't try to play, the ones who didn't try to learn technology through the playful. And this too, I don't want to, I have a fairly critical and acute view of education

and I don't want to get into it, but for example, I have one of my daughters, last year she started college and she wanted either psychology or engineering like her father. So choose whatever you want, see what you like and you accompany her. I say, "Why?" Because it's four years plus two, the Master's 6, it's nothing. You're only 19 years old. We have thought that it is for life, that this is the only thing I have for life, my husband, well, my children, that's all, but my husband is for life. But we are used to the fact that it is a career for life, the decisions are for life. I have another view on that, I respect that of all people, but that is my view. That

is why parents have to come to this space and know what we want to give to the children, the opportunity that they have. Because precisely this, that the children learn what they like, what they don't like, what they can develop, is great. It's great and without wanting to learn all these social skills, these logical skills, these skills to think outside the box, all that is the lateral thinking that you say, solve it in another way. One is going to teach them the way one learned and nothing else. So, well, I celebrate that there are guardians of being, people who dedicate themselves to education, to accompany the youngest, the children, the young people. For me, I don't know, they

are their guardian angels. I thank you very much for joining this project, for accompanying us. And the truth is that it will be very good in Visay, it will be very good this year, this incorporation. What's going to happen? It's Saturday, what's going to happen on Saturday then, for those who are listening to us? Well, what's going to happen? There will be three hours of practice, game, game, game. There will be robots, there will be sequential programming, there will be a game, there will be a football championship with robots, where there is also teamwork, because they have to see certain things so that those robots work and can win the game. So, well, all that. And there will be a lot of love, a lot

of love on our side and waiting for those children and waiting for those parents with this slightly more bold look and that they dare to bring them and that they dare to do what they don't know. And those who know, because I also know that's there, I want my son to follow what I want, I want my son to follow, well, those who know them too, to bring them, because he will find this human quality, he will find that we can accompany ourselves as adults, we are responsible for educating in a harmonious and and of play for the boys, because the game never ends. The other time, I think I was talking to Gio, he said this, because it's an example I give

myself, if one in a row of a bench or throws a ball and where there are older people, everyone starts to play that that ball does not fall. The game is always there. So they will find that, Freddy. Game, love. We are going to be in Visays, Medellín, at the University of Antioquia, on Saturday 14th from 8:30 pm. We are waiting for you. We are organizing everything, think that we are within the framework and within the main event, we did it on Saturday, precisely so that the parents can accompany their children, so that there is that time, precisely to be there, to be very present, which is what we have wanted to tell all the parents,

which was also part of that change of what we thought of this space, that we clarified it in a first podcast or one of these first spaces where we are with sol explaining that there are a lot of dads who have written to me internally or ready to take the most of it then it will be something very nice because in the middle of the whole Saturday we will also be in ctf which is another way of playing for us with different types of challenges and being some against others, but playing we are going to have a space of book bounty, of being looking for vulnerabilities to different platforms, which is also another way of

playing for what we do in the middle of the main talks with international, national guests. So think that it's going to be a whole big fair with a lot of things and here EcoKids is going to be immersed with a look like this, I don't know, we are all super, with all the hope and with all the happiness of being able to open this space for the first time, so that's more or less the idea of what is going to be happening on Saturday. I will be on the event all Friday, if anyone wants to contact me, I don't know, there will be a reference place for a meeting there, I don't know. Well. - Something else? Freddy, you were kicking me very well. You were kicking me very

well. - No, no, I say it because I don't know if there is anyone of those who are watching us at this moment who have another question, if you have any other question and if not, then nothing, we are ready, we started so that they remember and suddenly the people around here are going to see them. After that, if you want to know how everything is, we start training on Wednesday. On Wednesday we are going to start with the Purple Team training, which will be on Wednesday and Thursday. Also, on Wednesday afternoon we are going to be doing Future Hacker, and in Future Hacker we are going to be inviting schools so that they know

what cybersecurity is and can start getting into it. So that's going to be our first that we are going to open on Wednesday. On Thursday we will open a second training of OSINT that will last all Thursday and additionally we will have 101, which is a space where we simply want to introduce different cybersecurity issues. For those who want to know what cybersecurity is, we will have cryptography spaces, profiling of the different roles of cybersecurity, we will talk about artificial intelligence, we will talk about how to make attacks on artificial intelligence, so we will have different talks with practices all day long so that the people who want to approach are there. On Friday we have our main track,

which will be the main talks, where we have many talks, you can find it on bsidesco.org. We will also have a word driving at night, where we will be going around Medellin looking for wireless networks, so if you want to stick around, you are also welcome. And on Saturday, I already told you a little bit about our CTF, our Book Bounty space and also a Hands-On space. So it's a totally practical space with different guests where they will teach you specific techniques of what they do. And already on Saturday we entered the Eco Kids, CTF, bus bounty and the last talks then at night we are going to have the party of visites Colombia 2025 and well that is at a general level what we

have this year prepared for you then there will be many activities for all ages also that this is something that we are very happy about because we were always there a lot of people doing like the event, so this year we already changed, we opened, it is very rich to have that possibility of opening many other spaces, to be able to share from another perspective and that is what we have planned for Visites Colombia 2025 and nothing, well once again invite them to join, to share with us, to enjoy, you know, look at this spectacular team with which we count for EcoKids, thank you very much to you for joining, I don't know if there

is anything else from you, the additional and final invitation for people to join us in this space. and Freddy Sol that they make that last that last little wedge for all those who are going to go for the easy ones on our part to continue strengthening this ecosystem that is great fish and to be able to find references to be able to strengthen this community that is generating a lot of things we will see each other on Saturday Thank you very much for the invitation. See you. See you on Saturday. Visit the social networks so that you can wait with great anxiety for the surprise that we are going to have not only from Pygmalion, but from the whole event of Coquitos. That's

right. Well, I invite you and we will be there playing, having fun, learning through this whole beautiful subject that is technology. And well, see you there, I'll be the first one to be playing. Well, and I, to close this, thank you very much once again to Gio, Eli, Freddy, Gary, John, who couldn't connect. Well, go, we're not going to disappoint you, you're going to be amazed. I call people, I encourage you to bring the children, we're going to have a great time, you're going to be surprised, you're going to be excited. Sometimes this happens to me, that maybe you who are working with children see it, when the father is amazed by what he could achieve or could solve, that his son is great for the father and much

greater for the boy. Look, I did it, I did it, so well, we wait for you with a lot of love and punctual 8:30, Saturday 14:00, 8:30 at the Antoquia University. -We are waiting for you. -Thank you. -Thank you. -Bye.