BSidesMCR 2018: The Amateur Locksmith Returns by Steve Wilson

thank you very much and this thing on can you hear me that's all right right yeah I literally finished writing my slides about 20 minutes ago so so they've been well practiced well rehearsed I might finish in five minutes we might be here at five o'clock still I apologize either way yeah I kind of still there's a red team tour I suggested it but it's not really I have interest how many people would self-identify as red team testers but nobody who's ever picked a lock on a red team job really okay we will see right so Who am I what the hell are we doing I think I promised them four things some history some

science some stories which which I think you may or may not and some interesting pictures but before we get the fun of stuff I will talk a bit hello I am so Miami Steve I've been doing this [ __ ] far too long I like child of the 80s well 70s technically grew up in the eighties so lots of like it the computers lots of 16-bit computers lots of defeating copy-protection for academic purposes personal interest then I got sidetracked oh so I want to be friends pathologist so I'm like dealing with dead things I got sidetracked appointee and it'll do fantastic and forensics response research and development and system administration and now I guess people ask me what I do

for a living and I say as little as I could possibly go where was we were trying to come up with another Roman name for the bottom of the t-shirt I'd have printed the only sensible suggestion from one of my colleagues was sex attacker which I don't think it's fair if anybody has any better ideas you know feel free I believe blatantly still this slide for my friend Nick Hill isn't here I am an award-winning speaker that's my award Ian Tom thank you thank you recognized you can tell it's a good award cuz it lights up and it's a better color than his because I got the pink the fact I was on the committee at this

event I didn't vote for my own talk I've been doing this stuff for a long time I I live in an area of natural beauty roughly halfway between Hereford and Cheltenham and if you do anything about mr. defense the government will give you an idea of why I've ended up the mess that I am so it's funny I know I'm not a top at work I work for launched telecoms firm and I talk to security people who who care about business and money and I care about security and on the rest of it which is why I really fit in it's I've been called many things perhaps the nicest was by Haroon 44 corner a couple years back when when we

may have Trond him slightly the night before he gave his keynote about what waste of time and defensive stuff is why bother and everything's broken and die in this waste of time I I know which one of them is that so my friend mr. Kay used to run for disclosure one of the most talented people like I've known so if it's pinky in the brain I know which one I am so I tweet stuff I'm on Twitter if you want to if you wanna look up there I'm not hit top at work so I'm not going to somebody know what I do for a living so we don't yeah I do security stuff but I'm not here to talk about that right

big caveat and disclaimer I I am NOT a locksmith I have never been the locksmith I don't know what's missing qualifications I read some books and I watched some videos and I played with some stuff but I am NOT an actual do anything I say is probably rubbish ignore it discounted go and watch some interesting talks I'll bet still got the pump on I can't believe you're all in here I'd be in the pub if I wasn't doing this but yes I'm not locksmith at this this is just stuff I think or no or block that do not take my word for it I also that there's also sort secret is that I'm not actually very good at lock

picking I'm terrible at what picking and and yet I give talks and stuff because you don't actually need to know it's like martial arts I'm interested in studying martial arts I don't train in martial arts and it's like this stuff I mind all the theory I don't practice enough right anyway that's me what since I'm here so I understand in Manchester a while ago I was twenty fifteen now I'm in a hotel if my room is under it's like not even they don't have windows and there's a notice on the door saying that for my reassurance if it's five holes and safety chains some what the hell is gone in here in the past and

you know they'll phone me up if I've already food which looking to stay the place I'm not going to say I'm but we'll just to see if you're awake and thinking and can think on my salt level we're gonna play a quick game of spots here issue I wish I have prizes to give away but I don't so can anybody tell me what's up with that congratulations you two can do physical pen testing justified consultant so I come up with the solutions so temporary well I'll give you that but it kept me safe for the night I don't I don't get it I didn't have a screwdriver so I couldn't fix the problem though I say

temper if it's did right so what why am I here I asked myself again I keep saying I'm not gonna volunteer for stuff Here I am so I'm I am going to talk about history but not in the sense of here is a history of Locke sloppy and all that stuff I'm gonna talk about history of me cuz I'm more interested in me than anybody else is probably so I was young once unless tattoos so this is sometime in the late 90s this is at a gathering of like-minded individuals near where I live and the blurryface man pictured with me is a very good friend of mine who actually called metaphor for the purposes of this is where goodbye

real names and we worked in some office and he had a bunch of lockpicks on his desk so one day I'm like clearly off I can see you self I want half the money though that's fair so you have this thing Mikal knowledge empirical if you want to know some things but play with the experiment with it don't take some deals as we do it yourselves so you know these a lot pics on his desk what their fourth a lot fits you do with them you pick lots how good play with a pic from tickle away and back then you know it's reworked in office environment so what we looking at opening I became very well

known as the man who can get you into your filing cabinet when you leave your keys at home which happens like every other day of whew did his somebody would turn up no keys can you come up the phone cabinet and yes of course I can finally cabinets are rubbish they have terrible ops I noticed though they're all based on with locks these look like internally well externally and the bits inside they're not designed behind secure they're designed be cheap to mass-produce so they're they're terrible locks for that cheap and abettor nothing so they sort of serve purpose and you know I like locks because I really simple like me not much to them you know it's a simple

thing you've got you've got a plug which because it was cylinder and will rotate if there's nothing blocking it unit but if you the key is constituting would turn simple right us you know even I can understand that and if you think about keoki basically serves two functions that the key what lifts whatever the internal mechanism of the lock is their pins or waivers whatever and then you use it physically as a lever to turn right now as if we had one tool with us lift the things to right untorn it we'd have the key picking locks but we don't so we typically use two tools and the first technique I learned is the first

technique that everybody learns but they let the pickle ops it's the one that requires absolutely no skill very very little skill huge amount of lock but it's dead simple to learn you don't need to do much so you take a tension wrench torsion bar depending on who you're talking to which is the l-shape it the bottom and you use that to apply a turning force and then you take the point you wiggly bit over a because it's known and you saw German the locking was around and it's simple fact is it that's all you need that's all the training and just to prove it if video played there is a yell up that I am breaking open so you put

the tool end in a now it's maybe a bit of up and down don't twist it don't turn it don't bend it because it's very thin must cleanse Pokemon strumming but it's that simple whoops what some bad locks well it's less well and good locks but you'd be surprised what you get away with what I'm teaching people at top a lot picking I describe it's like juggling because I I like job I my sojourns kid I can describe to you the theory of juggling in 30 seconds and it will take you like a month of dropping balls on the floor before you can do it so so wrecking business the chocolate just thrown balls of Canaries chuckling

oh no stops yeah I'm joking see I said not what skill to it but it's all twerps yeah you feather tension on novice you're doing it because you will if the pins to mine drop down but you just wheel it around it opens sometimes say you're right I'm fine ocean now I know grow up in hops I'm done people familiar with the thumb improve effects it's a wonderful thing I shouldn't spend my time I know how little I know I know how much I don't but you know I barely know anything's okay so I know one technique to open a lock but there's lots so we have like jiggler or tryout keys roughly chip it's

the metal we go around and surprisingly often at work the picture on the right is what I stole from want to spoil the tens videos on mine describing over lifting so you can you can get with lots to open if you put a black key in or a lollipop stick or something roughly like a blind key because you lift the wafers too high they get caught up on the wrong side as they're coming back down and if you do it right see though it's it's as simple tricks and techniques but but I would never thought without looking at it and this probably a whole lot of other stuff like I don't know about so right I need

to stop learning more researching for Oh 15 years ago there was an event so I used to be involved in this this little property thing called on Connor which does now but back then it's that right I got a thing called hop safety and security which is if fourteen hundred page book encyclopedia which is still the cheapest I can find anywhere about 200 quid so important but they did like an online to do digital versions they did that this free sample thing so I found a copy that I poured over it it's it's a brilliant book if you got a copy do if you worked paper even better I must get myself copy but but you know

thousands pages listen those are interesting stuff and I I did this I was about two hours long the talking hint so I haven't got time to do a few did but I went into you know the history of lots all manner of interesting stuff fascinating absolutely brilliant if you like that sort thing a couple of points today so so this is spoiler town security anthropologist as he described themselves does some amazing presentational not picking was champion lock-picker goes into the history though or his family so so Yale hoop into the open tumblr the company was yelling town he's in town descendant of I wouldn't my things off if on Kickstarter so he had like the most ridiculously successful

Kickstarter campaign some lockpicks wants a lot pics sold where more than he ever could have manufactured had him nightmare deal with it but like I said his his stuff on history is absolutely top-notch if you want to go back to history ops go watch your stuff I would definitely recommend it so yeah I start digging so where can I find out information about locks well one good place is a pit office you know even know how stuff works well you pull the pit and certainly have most descriptions and diagrams in a documentation so as a example left we've got the original with lot patent which again is like the 1870 and on the right we have the first Hill

pin tumbler patent which they redid in respect 1865 because if you look there originally they had it was like a horseshoe shaped key before they redesigned it was a salt flat key we typically think of now but then you know brilliant source of information you want about stuff that happened the past is it's all documented and then it sucked right working on what else can I find about how do I find out about how things work when I was a kid and I used to take radios and televisions and stuff apart what's inside them and never get the pup back together again or working and so right I'll stop pulling apart every old lock I can find so that's a random law

firm that was a wardrobe I think and it's a very very simple morning lock so you can see wards there's two things on bottom which is just a physical thing to stop a key turning if it hasn't got be appropriate not just phone it and it's a very simple mean a lock so yeah stop post apart but yep yep moral dollops again I'm living following their Victorian house so we've got a whole bunch of the doors so anything I can get on site take it apart as it works try and understand what's going on again mix these are horrible um goodbye cheap blocks my local DIY store so Robert take my part look at them understand how they

work cut ways and get that easy now you know transparent and perhaps stuff is a doddle what 15 years ago less so cutaways were expensive if you could find them and you probably couldn't so again I say cheap Dremel for the cutting disc and some cheap blocks from home business wherever and you can start to get an idea of right here's how these things work ah yeah more questionable Dremel look the one on the one who writes is just just a leave a paddle if I did the one on the left taught me more about pin tumblers than anything else I've ever done so at this point in time I sort of knew how they worked find off and it's a Troy

I've got taken old front door off I've got the spare lock I want to make like a cutaway because I can't afford buy one because I'm poor and they were expensive I'll take a lot apart how hard can it be I know what's inside there I'll be fine so I get a small pair of pliers and a screwdriver and I managed to pry the c-clip off the back if I had the key in it at the time when she comes meant the barrel dropped down some pins and springs went flying everywhere and the reason it's only got three holes drilled in it what was originally a five pin lock is I could only find enough of the

pins and springs to make a 3 pin hook and it does if you turn it one way it works fine if you turn it the other way it catches the holes on ideal but again I'm proving the point I can with some cheap tooling I can make something that I can then show people look this is how a lock works as I say the one on the right yeah again some bad work with a dremel but you know though not somebody can do it better so I end up with a proper one right pin tumblers I've mentioned can't um blurs so I know must do is mandatory and any lock-picking talk which is explained single pin

pickings so so reeking I talked about ripping is quick and simple and doesn't require a lot of skill and requires a lot of luck this is juggling so this is the one that I can describe the theory in like a minutes but it will take you hours days weeks of practicing people do stuff so the idea was single pin picking is basically the plugs and the cylinders for locks or manufactured tolerances you know they're not precise because to make them so you know social engineering would cost money and it would actually make them less usable because if they were so tightly tolerance you know that you've got dust and stuff in this not working so so they

operate on policies so that the theory goes that if you look at the line of holes that are drilled in the plug to you it appears like it's a straight line and they're all the same but isn't there are small differences in the size and the layout of those holes so they're in a lot a straight line which means when you put a turning force on the lock one pin will stick and only one pin it's not all five of them or six of them or celebrate one pin will catch so basically what you do is you feel each of the pins and you can feel the one that stuck and then that's what it's

showing is it's just going by pin by pin and when you find the one that stuck you move it until it reaches the share line which is the brick between the cylinder and when it reaches that the muffle turns slightly Miura's like click and another pin stick so then you feel for that pin move that feel for the next one fuel to the next one when you get the last one it pops up and it's that simple pop the feel and the sensitivity and the touch do people do that it will take you time to get okay don't myself will put my hand up I don't practice enough anymore you know I used to practice a lot more

than I do now but yeah so single pin picking go through it they go I also can't mention single person you will see these these graphics everywhere tool use and a lot lots of people use a lot and they're trading people or pic I believe they are the work of this man another man I would recommend talking into his work this is deviant that's deviant all lovely chap some people for years me enough see we're talking about we're gonna write book new book I'm not picking a new book I'm not going to be amazing and because I'm disorganized around to it and then he released two of them both of which reps of books I say if you want

the book I'm not picking get first one first okay you know there's lots of good videos speaks a lot Def Con that's what stuff if you want you know good looking up online she's got some amazing stuff oh yeah well so very quick mention so the difference you know difference between raking and picking when you're reeling you're operating pins once or wafers or when you're picking as will define it you are working a single pin at a time so you can see the differences in the tool it's one on the left or clearly designed to move lots of things right less so so use the right tool for the right job right now just to prove

that we haven't do it live which is brilliant his stress all this message mob just to prove I can do it here is me opening if open padlock properly so one time so I know this lobster will be Pete pin three then pin fall off and pin 1 and pin 2 so it's like literally feel it is stuck moving feeling it stuff moving feeling stuck move it pop-pop there we go so yeah I can pick locks proof I'm done no no I know how stuff works I can open it brilliant that's never the case so again you know interesting things that people think of that would have never occurred to me people familiar with Newton's cradles

equal and opposite reactions well if you if you think about a lock and you saw it turn it sideways well you've got what two pins next to each other so if you smack one of those pins really hard what does the other pending with well it jumps out with so then you can something like that or better still something like that so so via manual or electric pick gun I'll the idea being here on wouldn't you squeeze the trigger and it pops one at a time longer one it just runs back and forth but if you can bind that up and get all the pins at once sorry all the t-pins at once all the top

pins will jump up with a local spin of them locksmiths swear by them I've really struggled to use the manual one the electric ones easier but God it makes a noise and the mess so you know if you like covert red team stuff you might not want to think about this sort of thing but don't think I'd love to see this you know people are clever so you know whilst you know you can you can buy in nicely made metal thing I believe I was like ecstatic someone somebody made in prison why a coat I know repent which is brilliant the other thing is brush so you know people were taking electric toothbrushes but it's electric it

vibrates we need to find Britain lock open what amuse me toothbrush unless you're one of my colleagues so company I used to look for this is this the two directors I will give you a close-up on it they wandered into an summer's the two gentlemen together and they set the girl behind the counter we we're looking to buy something that Brits what what have you got that's got the most um and that will look good in video and this is what we ended up with so then you know this stocks like a metal pick on the front and okay the voltage was double a-- batteries up so it was twice as powerful as it was

supposed to be why we didn't sell them back i don't know but you could it would it would open bad what you know so that is our office filing cabinets being opened yeah you know it works it's a technique it's an interesting way of getting out of the police asking it why you've got lock picks I suppose so yes you can improvise your own stuff and I like that about you know this is a hobby I randomly pop this is another tangental thing so I I kind of fill out with lock picking so we built the thing that we just melt locks so unless our thermal Lance so you use the steel as a fuel source

it's the steel that burns the oxygen being fed through it just keeps it going and it burned up like you know a couple of thousand degrees you can melt a lot of stuff with it it's in the way was one of FC's silly ideas he thought you could do from like an aerosol spray bob says you know once you get to clean proper oxygen we built that one rod then bought some commercial ones like I need to get back to it but another fun random physical project if you have to be bored and don't develop skills just build on these the technology sister-in-law's and again I'm going back to you know stuff that isn't you at all I mean Bob T's had a

resurgence a few years back thanks to Chris Dangerfield at UK Bob please who did all work on them but this is a pin drawing from from 1908 so again you know simple enough idea well there's some extraneous spring stuff around how it works but very basically you've got a key cut the specific depths the key goes up a bit you smack it in it hits all the bottom pins the top instrument where you turn them off and if it doesn't work it pops back home you hit it again it's surprisingly effective if you can get keys with the right key word to line up with what you're attacking not terribly covent if you're trying getting somewhere in

the middle of a bang bang bang bang yeah not the best but it works I think mother knew similarly comp experiments so the problem of these is if you look at the diagram if you've got pin tumbler and there are pins in the way well if you can lift all the pins clear out the way because the locks designed badly now is too much Spears in the top chamber you if you've lift them all out the way my Fink's holding it open anymore so again I'm in the pinch drawing from 1930s where he's got like a black key and he's got these things they stick in with the lifters on them but they're you can buy you know come picks in a range

of sizes again I'm massive fan of them because I've had so many of these things stuck in rocks but even if locks are vulnerable to them getting them in getting them working is the right pin but again you know it's another possible technique without worrying about some of the intricacies of the locket so we'll just lift it all of the way we'll get in time for another introduction so this is a lovely Dutch man how do you pronounce his name Josh just he's he's like good about pickings he's very good at picking he's that world champion good luck so crush it in was this thing he was two years running the world champion the impression he lops so impressed him Lots

it's making a key when you haven't got a key so if you take a blank uncut key polish the top of it put it in a lock turn it one way with layup and don't until we look up down obviously what open because the pins are in way but by you turning it you're flipping a pin as you build up and down that pin is then marking the key you take the key oh look it under a magnifying glass they'll be some marks you foil them down you put it back in rinse repeat rinse repeat rinse repeat you end up with a copy of the teeth it's amazing so I he has done locks in like under a minute

from from nothing and okay I mean they always worked on the same type of locks in these competitions so you know say you get very very good at doing one particular brand of lock but yeah I've seen him do like devilís when he'll be talking like this oiling keys and you know myth even work again I would hardly recommend going in looking at the stuff he does he peeps sometimes turns up at UK events nice job if you see him hello I say it's um it's clever stuff no I can I can describe so slight slight side misstep I haven't got with me I'm pleased with me but I can assure you what impression it looks like

anyway and to do that we're going to look at a different type of pin tumbler lock two blocks as people mistakenly called axial pin tumblers so I mean I assume we've all seen these vending machines you see in the lot you know round key was the sole you can see the exposed end pins but basically it's just a normal kid tumbler in a circle line so it's the same thing you've got if you look you've got set Springs you've got two sets of pins you've got the shear line between the front and the back another brilliant thing about these I are you still love teaching people to open these so again you will see things that look a bit like

that people will took all these tubular lock picks I'm a parent so they're not their actual pin tumbler impression and decoding tools it's more of a mouthful but it's technically correct I think unless anybody wants to point they're going wrong and these are simplicity itself there's literally one tool you don't need a file you don't need measuring depths and magnifying and UV lights and stuff so box is open obviously shut lock the box with the key I'm not - Ellen notice I can remember which was which you take the front the tool off it's got series of like sliding rods so you push them all the way forward and then you push it so they're flush with

the end of the key bit tighten it up put a bit of tension on so this me it's holding those rods so they won't move very much they'll move a bit but not a lot and then it's like literally you put it in the lock of wiggle it and now I used to have a like an old steering wheel locked I used to take around with me to demonstrate this to people and it's literally always it always take longer when you're waiting for it oh oh yes literally put it in and turn it that's that is it that is the skills you need no I will it was that focus well it's basically showing you is if you

look at the end of the tool you can see the little metal bits that move down and if you were to hold the real peel for it they'll be exactly the same and then you use a measuring tape to read off what the values are and then you put the locksmiths you can you cut me a key laughs and now I've got a copy of your piece it's not it's not mad rocket science involved it's literally put in Whitledge I didn't make that joke you won't it that wasn't me stop playing on my mind right oh so pin tumbler is impression another good attack and okay squeaky foils but you can be reasonable about with it right now we're gonna hit

the lock for portion so I have a bunch off and again this is so so I got interested I'm also kales sake I know about pin tumblers but what about different pin tumbler I was a guy Stephen Hampton who wrote several books on like picking high-security cylinders which again I mean they're a bit dated now but they're fascinating reads so what do they do to me flops muscular more difficult so

you'll notice on the top pins aren't Square they've got not just cutting them that's to try and trip you up but you're not picking because you'll get a false point where you think you've got it in hasn't his problem on them but if you lift the more attempt to rotate so you've been working yeah but anyway so sorry so these are way flops we're looking at so so it's it's it's the same basically you've got two sets of pins and springs but the keys turned on its side key and look at it when you've got a profile on the edge real key it's just small it would be otherwise the interesting thing about the multi locks

or if you notice on the right you can see so they're not just pins they're pins with in pins so you have appended in a pincer on just lifting one you have to lift to makes it a bit more tricky you could still impression them I have impressions it's nightmare cuz the pin cut and file but it's possible Ivan again you can pick them you have slightly different design picks a curved on one side normal look but again you know a high-security lock doesn't get more difficult picking people look at all these must be secure not the case then we have the Medeco this is an interesting one so American locks that for a long time was considered to be

very secure if you look at the key on the right so if you think about normal key the cups are like square right angles if you look at that the cuts are all angles so the thing about the Medeco is not only do you have to lift the pin to the mic weight you have to rotate it the right amount as well for a long time thought completely you know impossible by person and then a couple of I wrote a book ear thick on exactly how you two passed it not as secure as it once thought but again if you look so if you look the pins actually have a slot in them and if

that slot isn't lined up there's a bar with pins will go into it which is probably see slightly clearer on the next one so if you look on the screen on the right you can see the pins are turned and there's little pins go into it again if they're not correctly lined up that'll move the entire thing Bijan solid but there were pickable eventually all right moving on with the history where did I end up next rung cons so I did my amazing talk too long on cons and then I went did it Brahm columns absolute disaster so I realized that like all one of the artwork that I had I had any copyright on at all it was all

stuff lifted from one source and so I tried to recreate it all manually was to talk I've ever given by a long chalk there wasn't my sky there though who is pictured on the top right okay Reverend Wright I met him at that bronc on 14 years ago haven't seen him since I must get myself down one 2600 he came and he said nice things to me and thanked me on the talk and he gave me this look he then went and said some less pleasant things on the internet which is fair enough it wasn't best talking the walls but yeah possibly some puzzle this because it wasn't at the time it wasn't like anything I'd really

seen before so again you know big hefty lock flat key with with sort of angled cut strain it and I say these these days it's a digital lock and and if you buy a shoe so see-through padlocks of Amazon you'll get one of these and you'll do I did yesterday which is publicly into it and see how it works and it will break and lock solid and it's hoofed cheap Chinese rubbish but you know it's a bit technology more aware of now then bill thing is you can get tools to attack them so the thing on the right is their tools for picking a dispute in a lock a basic simple one I mean for more advanced more complex

this contain a lot several similar tools but basically the bit with the tip spruce bring into it is where you put tension on the lock and then if you back the bar on the end moves in and out and you can interfere with the individuals discs I played with this yes I still I give it to a professionals how much a locksmith I give it some professional people I know and they kind of we think it might be the the end of the tool isn't sighs I had all sorts of clever ideas like how I was going to look inside this lock into my friend who worked at dentist was no actually for me and stuff but but never got around to it

it's another one on the list of I will open this one day there's a right this Patil ops think about just a little ops they reminds me of heroin people familiar with combination locks like safe locks you know rotary combination locks where basically you have a series of disks with not just put in them and the trick is manipulating it in such a fashion that all the notches line up and something can drop into them so on the padlock on the left its it's the ratchet rocks back if there's a gap there and for the combination one white another thing if you look at this there is a gift insecurity weakness sir please so the little bit that comes out and

latches into the notch on the shackle of the padlock is spring-loaded it has to be because when you push the shackle shop that's how it gets out the way because it's spring-loaded that means if we can push something against it we can just push it every way so you need to worry less about actually over the lock opens and just how the shuttling mechanism works so simple travel options and you can make these with a pair of scissors and then you can cook you know if you've got thin enough metal and again I've done it for you know I build like CTF type things you know I got people making padlock shims they don't last long compared with like

the commercially bought ones but I say trivial again it's not rocket science no no errors occurred in mathematical concepts to understand its tips that's pretty thing everywhere we've known a bit more the porn so this patina loxley by far the most prevalent ones are the boys series I was that though we did the intersect this year and I was doing my usual I said people don't teach not picking explain stuff and it's got this sound scrum and everything I came over I'm really interested in Tony Bryk pin tumblers let me stop with the history oh no no look at the badness or you work faster oh boy right I don't you know within like 10

minutes I was picking up a nonsense brilliant but again you know like the classic one day started with the old disc lock which had a weird like Hoffman key so not Moretti's but I say it's a series of don't we have that one what I do have his Co is of a different disc lock I don't I love the engineering on these you know if you look at my kids you can tumblr they're horribly cheaply made you look at these things they'll beautiful they don't you know very very precise you know reminds me of like watches or you know that's something the level of detail and the thing is of course normally none of this is visible at all

if somebody's cut these away so you can see the internal mechanisms normally these are hidden away any lies are there but again you've got a series of flat discs with various not just cutting them the key lines the notches up the notches that soy board drop into that gap and then open if they don't line up there's no gaps aside bumping open so the idea being you know if you're trying to feel is something dropping in place so Rob having a full depth gauge - Allen won't cut that will work but you feel it think it does so there you know a few of them to try and throw people off picking them I think this is probably the most

expensive lock I have so again this is there's a protect two out there which they've updated the design but the protec was the the update of the disk lock and I mean again the level and if people wanna come have a look I've got some of these with me afterwards because the images really don't do it justice when you see it while moving let's say the level of engineering I mean you can see why they're like a couple of hundred quid a cylinder rather than a couple of quid from a pin tumbler they are lovely to get so got more of them moving on in time I did forty four corners which I can summarize in two words something

went really well sort of it didn't don't find open lots with paper clips is ridiculous idea there are the worst tools in the world you know like I'm sure you could find something better handcuffs however everybody loves handcuffs handcuffs always build em install there's always somebody who will make a job everybody using in the bedroom guaranteed so we'll talk about them briefly and again you know handcuffs are not simple things so there again is the original patent from peerless which is only for single locking handcuffs double ones we have now so if you've uh characteristics of padlocks you know you've got the wrong way around Paul it's the Paulin handset that goes into it and the same ones will have a

little button hidden somewhere the double oxen so as when the police pop in you they should double lock them stops of tightening anymore because you could end up with really bad nerve issues if you ever took the handcuffs so--but be the the the double lock is just there's a little sliding bolt so if you look left it's the way open was if you look on the right isn't the way and physically it's blocking it's physically blocking the ratchet removing you know is the direction so again you can't tighten them you can't loosen them they're locked of course we've talked about shims shoving things to go if you lock on the left that is a padlock being

properly opened with the correct key if you lock on the right thigh say pub handcuff being opened with no key but I mean they're exactly the same the results the same the teeth don't mesh and the thing all open so from my point of view you know he's good I did always used to carry handcuff case on me all the time I for some reason I stopped another pro tip is well first pro tip is do not if they please put on handcuffs don't take them off and give them back it really annoys them the second prototype if you're going to carry handcuff keys get one really long ones but yeah but so swimming you can

basically okay and you can shove it in either end the result Zoltan Sam and again it saved me having to demonstrate and do anything I shall show you an old video in the resolution but you know so handcuffs a lot they're really single lock they're knocked up a lot this doesn't work if they're double locked but you know you take your thin bit metal you jam it down one side you push the Paul up the wasted ratchet blow open but it catches on the last teeth and there's lots to do so putting it in that side is actually easier but you will tend to close them a couple of clips so depending on how tight your gang anyway

handcuffs dead easy nice if people always like them the other or some things so people have asked me about tools and stuff like like literally you can find these lying on the floor for nothing I mean we saw a couple of strips streets because out this morning you know that what's the driver in brushes those brushes actually have sprung steel heads so you'll find the blade snap off all the time you were literally just find them lying in the gutter there are really good sprung steel they might need a bit rusty but I say they make they make really good shims handcuffs especially but also if you want to make picks like I say it doesn't work if they

double opportu safe if they've doubled up them well actually we might have some used for paperclip after all so it's again the one useful thing we worked out if you have a paperclip and a pair of handcuffs stuck on you and you shove the pips let's do it in a paper clip out and shove it in the hole like people till it hits the back and then you bring it forward like half a millimeter and bend it a right angle that's about the perfect length right roughly and you can you can get them open I mean even just taking a bubble off off sake on paper clips do off some uses what else do we do besides 2012 in

London so again I gots to go and do but not picking teach people the first time I ever had a lockpick broken that was I shall never change my colleague Barry miles was teaching somebody and she snuck one of my pics I used to keep like copies of broken pipes and take pictures of them and and then I started teaching people a lot so I'm basically a lockpicks I use and then I have the ones I let everybody else use and they're horribly mangled the things people say which why I'll have mine nobody else touches oh then a funny story Oh people familiar with the manufacturer of mad bulb yes sorry about that um so some a very

very good friend of mine who was known in for as long as I live where I live pretty much and he used to make Formula one cars for living hope both him his dad worked for his father one team manufacturing fabricating stuff I'd like that job finished and he was building customer budget for living oh I knew he had a lot of sheet titanians I wanted some titanium tools made because at the time I was big thing Bogota was a big thing which is a particular design of what pic with three peeps and everybody was going on that titanium pocket or titanium bogit ours and there was a very confirm that sold them but it was silly

money so I'm not right you've got some sheet titanium can you make me some of these things and so are they I showed of them before applause so I sat with me in the pub and for about an hour and a half I Sun went through how Lots work every knob and he's brilliant I'll go work on something so that awesome so I saw him the next day have you made my titanium pocket ours is that no so I've made this so he had sat overnight in his workshop and he had basically found made-from-scratch a jackknife which was the first thing he started selling he knows how to considerable success although again the issue is he's trying to compete with

like mainstream manufacturers he hand makes everything he can't compete really because people expect you to have the same three important and stuff as they do I don't understand but so now we occasionally bull round so that was the first steel con and again we go and do a bunch a lot sit down and teach people I pick stuff what else did I get into then I started games for hackers which is a nightmare bloody awful because nobody reads the instructions or does what you want me to never follow the simple clues you leave them but no I was lucky enough to be invited a number of times to attend a particular event and I've made

a couple of challenges for them which have been really good fun although time consuming and expensive and soul destroying oh well no so I should retract that the trouble is because I'm Precious about my stuff and typically I will have a lot of stuff that there's only one off and if anybody breaks it that's been a ruminant for the entire event so I don't get to take part in the entire event I will sit and watch people do might waiting for the missile but always good fun except I always mess up and I'm never ready in time and I also spend like the first night event when everybody else is out drinking like five locks together or

taking them apart or recreating from scratch the stuff I forgot to put in the car before one came but it's handy and it taught me a very useful new skill which is reap innings scene I talked about earlier when I took that first open Tundra pod everywhere it was a nightmare and I ended up putting it back together like the picture on the left so I had some matchsticks so it's like a spring in get a pin in hold in place with a matchstick and the next one and the next one on the next wall and then try and load the plug back in while sliding the mud sticks out one at a time you could wear doing things I have

turned it into a game since the Romneys CTF type things it's alright here's a match box for the challenge for you put that back together using only what's in the match box which actually on your own is an absolute nightmare if you've got this helpers it's not so bad but I have the tools to do it properly so seeing are taking lots part is it's a doddle it's a useful skill to happen because excuse me because I know how progression so I could I can build a bunch of locks and I kind of like a one pin lock tip and lot sleep not for pickup five pin locks you know with safety pins and that

was the safety SS on sick and security pins and it means I can build 650 no competitions and games but again you know useful skill to have you know it's not very costly you need a few specialist tools not a lot I'm an idiot I'm an idiot so I was working on these slides at 3m and I wanted to cut and paste some of the pictures there in that document which is a thing I wrote when the challenges I did because there were some pictures I want to show you and that's on my machine at home and I didn't put them on the pen drive I bought four pictures on but why did have was no

presentation with copies of the PDFs like screenshots the PDF is not copy so I apologize I would like to show you some higher risk pictures but I don't have any with me as I mentioned but yeah leave a locks again well different different levels complexity but I dare opening them basically simple ones so the tools on the top left you know like we use two tools for a pin tumbler for leave locks we use two tools Sam's we don't want to try and move the bolt and then we have another interfere with the levers and again I will show you a quick video which I apologize my hands getting away for most of this and I'm clearly

using a cutaway because I'm rubbish at this I just wanted to demonstrate what it should look like it was funny this is the challenge I did for this one of the mops they've had to get through was that cut away but green tape around it the idea being well let me just take the tape off only about half the team's bothered so it was interesting to see that are they gonna are they gonna play with it as is covered up because lose anything but again it's interesting how people approach stuff I think again it's a nightmare these sort of games because you know you think I'll people do it like this and then go off massively on

tangents but I gotta say no simple level ops I then so let's say I collect high security locks this this is a beautiful things it's so oh I forget the manufactory it's off a safety deposit box if I think 16 levers soon oh if you think mops Locker to them might be five that's 16 again it's fun challenge because invariably you take the case officers people who see internal workings and you hand it them that's pretty and then they turn it over and all the insides followed I have put that thing back together so many times so that's not my challenge you give it to people in bits and say that I can you I thought back

the other place right we're winding up so we're getting there i friends sent me a picture of the lock on the left my window locks opening you got anything please and that's all I just have the same one so I thought they might little way for something like basic pin tumblers I've locked in that thing I can't even work out what it's doing I mean it clearly does something but the thing I'm jamming into is a bit of windscreen wiper blade so if you take an old windscreen wiper off peel the rubber where there's a long strip of Steel which it's got a couple of notches in the end so they literally stick it in

wheel it around again not a lot rocket science whilst we're criticizing locks and the American government um so TSA approved locks I love this this is terrible the worst way for lock you've ever seen plus an awful combination locks so if you get bored of picking it open terrible and of course the keys have been printed online freely so you just don't know the keys make your own security brilliant other things I've been looking at recently but does anybody on their homes have one of the things pictured on the left take it off right away you're probably invalidating your home insurance that's seriously they are so easy to open it to hit it with a hammer it will break anyway but

you can open them in about 30 seconds from the feeler gauge most people have like you know and stuff they'll see it I've been advised that you may be invalidate your warranty that's what you want your insurance like if you left a key that's what you're doing the things on the right again I assume people probably get them all over office spaces and stuff again equally rubbish you apply some tension to it you feel the buttons the ones that stick you let the tension off and push them and then you repeat that back three times I run a trading course for a week we should be doing work like entry level type technical pen testing type courses and I

had a couple of my international colleagues said novel it was it was frankly pretty well experienced things going on so I didn't teach them a lot during the week in terms of what the cyber thing but one day we had to move rooms and the room we went to had been left on these and so I stood there for thirty seconds and open it and they were more impressed than I've ever seen them before but like I say that my friend [ __ ] on who told me both and again this is you know the thing is it's you know find interesting people have no staff and get them tell you the other thing I've been looking at we're

very very nearly done these are brilliant because they're so bad so again Airbus one four five one four five and one six five series combination padlocks because of some flaws they've got in them you could best be very easily work out if you've got so they have four escapes every two numbers so numbers right they can be odd or even but you can very easily work out when you've got them in the right orientation if not the correct number so basically you're taking 10,000 possible combinations and dropping it to like five by five by five by five which is it can simply small the number but then because you can feel the force gates you

can actually open them dance like easier and again you know well-known not a new technique but but useful practice and play around with and I'm running out of steam and time yeah red-green color blind okay um so I you know I said I would come here and talk about some history I'd do a bit of science but not huge amount I tell some stories funny or knots and I'll show you some pictures yeah I think that's me any questions I've got stuff if people want to come and catch me outside and I look at some of this I've got stuff with me yeah questions comments abuse oh go on enjoy yep I wish I'd learn about age

it's like we've talked about gymnastics earlier it's it's you know I wish I'd learned I have some slides on in this one so I want picking 101 t-shirt and I wear a lot which has a picture of like a cup over on the front I was once not a petrol station and this this elderly gentleman stood me write lots of disgrace you're a disgrace all you're doing is teaching burglars so how dare you that's there's no good use for that and that's what industry professionals how do you improve security by testing it by showing people it's broken by showing people locksmiths for centuries have had this stitched up they won't tell anyone so nobody knows

how bad it is and it is bad we're making the world a better place the only way you improve things is by highlighting issues the only way you know about issues is by testing for them what's their problem hot chips what to get to get past to get past it so I get another another frequently asked question should I put good locks on my house is Andy here somewhere um no but buy the cheapest locks that your home insurance will accept otherwise you're wasting money and your highlight needs an attacker that you're something worth stealing so my house has terrible locks I have a dog that will chew your face off if you get pasta missus but yeah I'd say all

you're doing it's like put cameras on your place Brillion you're telling me about stuff with nothing expensive locks on your place compared your neighbors I know know where the money is get the cheapest locks your insurance will accept like quite locked British Standard don't don't waste money I mean buy them for your own interest have them internally or play around with them but I say as an actual security measure it's you know a burglar is not gonna pick a lock he's gonna smash a window cut a hole in the roof or you know kick a door in so some way car got pregnant with London I'd but turn off brands with a lot picking stuff in the

boot and a camera they lifted the camera they left a lot people here because seems have no interest in picking why would they want to spend months or years developing a skill when they can use brute force oh yeah not say it's an indication to me of you've got stuff with Nick don't do it Oh big dog so Beth Lana yes

no not you especially though no sir I we used to teach a lot of police people like National Crime Unit people from advice I have been given okay if if you are in an area behaving oddly with lockpicks where there have been orig orig with lock pips and no evidence left behind they might not issue I mean I've got lock picks on me I always have lock picks on me you know I've taken through airports I'm taking on planes I take them I once got stopped they once got picked up on 83 there was the back of my briefcase not that I know that what these oh they're all right again I mean my friend Sofia

was flying recently and it's at you know in like the airport picking Lots I mean I sighs I used to work for a very large bank and I would be sat with my customer in the back reception picking people but no as far as I'm aware I say unless you know if you're acting suspiciously around a property that's not yours then yeah you're going equipped I'm that's see it's not it's not probable I've ever had but I suppose I do have this job but let's say as far as I'm concerned with the legal advice I have had from serving policemen you should be alright I mean don't go stabbing people with them yep oh this is being record isn't

it so as a beginner the best advice I can give to people is it's like don't spend a lot of money but because you might hate it you might not it might be safe you start off with a cheap set the best advice I could give you is get some like fine sandpaper and polish them take any rough edges off because so the like Luke's also populace or my bulbs also popular it's because we met finishing work he puts in to making sure they are mirror polished because I see any any little rough edges will snow when you're doing stuff so yeah by all means bite you can set to start with before you buy expensive sets but I say

a bit of sandpaper I take care of them polish them up only practice practice as many things I mean and again you know you can do it cheap you can find business street sweeper blade and get a file and make your own picks you know in some would argue it's better because you're making your own tools you know better how it works but I sell beginners it's like itself a business that don't bicep about 300 pixel never use I basically let the pic with a half diamond and pretty much now all I ever use is a real or a half diamond you know there's no point having like a 50 pit set because you're just paying for bits

of metal you'll never you know you'll never do anything with don't mean the better thing is get lots get lotsa lots you know go to carpets Hills Britain boy sit anywhere you can find people so in the secondhand stuff get on eBay and find oil blots or you know get yourself down local DIY store let me that's what I did when I started you know good boil a half-dozen padlocks in a chain pop them on the chain and take them off the chain and put them back on again but I say it's the practice thing you know if you are if you're well-practiced people with bad tools you'll do all right I said why you know is I don't practice

pretty yeah well I say sandpaper be abide by cheap tools but look after them well don't expect them to be good when you get them out the packet together you