
good afternoon I have the quiet one sitting at the back of Rudy you thought it has to be lured into our speaking here probably right look do it nonetheless I'm pretty busy Mike Mike CD chief technical officer director strategic operations connects if you're going to hold training from a photographer agency training and/or a little the time I'm going to kind of tell you what the NC FTA is and then we kind of lay out the lien state if you will and then we go through about five slides and take a couple of great war stories that the new students hopefully at least you to think about some things everything even an operator I understand below that's the British meeting I'll
say something and I won't laugh you have to decide is he serious was he dating so the Mississippi rubrics let's see okay we're nonprofit and actually located around Pittsburgh Pennsylvania and what we do we've been doing since 2002 is very unique mission we actually co-locate pretty much all the major federal law enforcement agencies and a bunch of industry folks in our facility so I don't remember something called the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children very partition very similar kind of model fight we were by the late nineties was actually a guy like the Crimes Task Force itself Pittsburgh before he loves time working with industry sandy doesn't mean you know place to go work together
because you can't come into our government facilities and it's going to look weird having the government show your facility needs something in the middle and so he kind of model us a little bit after that and he said we will call cyber slits and that's it we are so be are a non-profit 501c3 and been around since 2002 or headquarter Pittsburgh we have a couple few places in New York LA and Charlotte and like I said or co-locating law enforcement for what and when you get to the gutter but we are update to the buzz Burton superior sector when you come to the completion because that'll make this make more sense so you a lot
of presentations and you hear a lot of buzz word essential and one thing you've been hearing over the last few years you see advertisements one on no radio and it's Pittsburgh I know this is girls man but you're technically almost Pittsburgh homes and flipside is about Pittsburgh is it's always 1986 use it style look good news when I Drive to Johnstown purse or something it's almost like appreciate that and I just totally lost my train of thought but what happens is that there are these people say we need more cyber security professionals so I'll make this is not work if I said to you I'm gonna get a degree in cyber security to des jahres
time you guys second major cyber security [Music] I think okay that's actually better because here's what happens your balance people say any time security people and I will turn around and I by the way I'm a former government I spent 20 years in the military but I've overheard with DHS for a couple years before I came down here kids I've been here about five nine years I've been working cumberly with government industry for a long and they'll say we need more cybersecurity people just okay do long what does that mean are they going to be your reverse engineers or anywhere are they going to be the people sitting on your network devices looking for the weird traffic
are they design whether your web application developers what does it mean because they're all different skill sets and they all essentially revolve around on team so I feel good pregnant in the first place there was someone out there was would try to exploit one chakra it turns out our bathrooms were familiar but there are people in this world and never met them for reasons whatever I know are not actually get into that but they're going to explain so if you're right he is not configured right if yours if you have applications not developed you know the best practices your websites not patched so for example this sounds pretty on TV example let's just say hypothetically
you want to be honest stores of all the financial data for every American citizen in the country all their credit history you think they probably got their stuff together there's no way you know legal bucks thank you by the way if no motorboated strats vulnerability are so involved it's so much practice up here I can't remember one thatÃs in the net so it's a known vulnerability they decide to not actually get exploited now that guys we're never bad guys can actually make all the way to the database still records 130 million Americans and exfiltrated and no one notices so what kind of person can fix that what face is stupid I mean how many never worked work
my favorite which okay my way a little implant hello hinges shortly after that happens I say I'm certainly gonna get a letter that's right maybe a letter from somebody saying your data may have been compromised or that interaction to set up this website with information so they could surely able to be notified that are impacted by Equifax I didn't get it so I gotta see my state what it knows my conditions are pretty smart so I don't I said no this was every kind of reporting requirements I said several facts
probably one of the Americans it's one of the lawyers of these sideshows no offense before they wrote GPR me because I think it's one way that data which if you've been doing this long enough for the first word I'll go back in 1983 like commerce 64 using a computer clock motor a mighty moment well I did the battle teachers printer thank you so that's all I'm gonna do this stuff this is what those open does free so anyways so they're gonna stop right it you know it's babies so Equifax nothing new you know because my favorite other paper rules OPM again there one there forever
so yeah petition several breaches on the network for a long time dark expense count 21 full cyber security cyber security professions will be having the government we pay how much you know our rights nine systems were supposed to monitor traffic and back each other appreciate your time that's okay laugh at all time I laughed when I was at DHS people talk about it's it's just a really expensive IDs that kind of doesn't work let them see if you folks so so that's another breach and it was the what's the result of that no my god wandering for you know one cases inspired so apparently my Social Security birdie-bird that one day expired as the British immersion folks
in Canada it's not relax you're all swinging neck relax are these new breaches but you all know the realities it's totally reasonable one of their all the time creatures are not recorded so that kind of stuff though isn't technical technical part that is true cyber crime I needed some kind of technical skill set i excavated something i stole data and it took it's alright i'm gonna switch gears that's all the techie stuff girls all right but then there's the non-text at you're screwed over now the story she when she very first lucky no dimensional female thing well let's go uh see not compromise that's your pursuit so I see three as the appeals of house analysts that are
interested better than ice please you see Bobby's complaints the idea is every complaint that goes but isoprene actually does get look at the problem is is if you say law enforcement has been open up the case but every single complaint it's not gonna happen what they're gonna try and do is say where these complaints part something bigger that he may be looking at or something you might want to look at so if I could take you will be some of my losses and I have it up you see a bunch of money see now I'm interested is the threshold of federal paid so that B C's pre-civil it doesn't take any kind of technical skills it's just bad guy since evening
and either he's loose email or in some cases they will reach an email service end from official like emails we're learning text break you know servers or just expose you've never passed a law to announce an email severe weather so there's an email from company to company XYZ hey uh javis Mary boss and community to opportunity Miss America box and way to Mexico and if you learned $12,000 cities
flipside you making some incense if your finance department says hey listen burglar we're you know product XY see you always pay us and start paying for this account me he'd be paying us for this account if they didn't say there's a little bit people who are going to just fall because the email told me too that they can do these sorts of things there's a trillion time how much money do you think this reported losses since 2013 in the back one type of crime more than a million dollars more than ten million dollars more than a million dollars more than a billion dollars more than five million dollars how about seven billion dollars in or didn't losses you know there are
companies out there who lose some money or other way the same nothing we'll just
tell me these things are making us smarter rationality so that's all cyber and even crime it's not necessary technical but it's enabled technology another common engineer a little bit is drug sales hopefully epidemic thank you there's a lot of doctors that prescribe you know they haven't stopped the doctor I think I heard pretty can I give you a six-month supply our stuff so so you thanks technology I don't have a good look for anyway died I thought I was to go overland and I'm gonna buy this stuff well not gonna use my breath or public number earthly stupid people but they do renews technology was a solution to that it's called crypto currency for the first big
ones so now that is World War just not as a bad guy should use whatever can out wrong cryptocurrency really like a guru Bible alone when you're at a far more the news go down with Bitcoin ATM yeah and now I can take that money terms of any cryptocurrency iPhone sub website sells drugs they could buy the drugs they technology I'm not a techie person first some drugs probably no detective person but committing crime is enabled through the use of sirens so far so good alright the other thing happens the actual number seems of me the irtual number Holland no kidding super-ninja baby Baghdatis probably isn't that high but would they'll develop with respective duties and exploits it's pretty good day
that somebody buys it and uses it the southern binding using it is good enough to use it but they've even given up the development so you have a core group of developers somebody's buying it and using it and then they get better written incentives chemical factory and I've got the hit that day done whatever the credit cards whatever is and now we can sell someone else have no idea how using folders will completely techie Eleuthera color early to have on the site and buy stolen credit cards of the body and then turn them innocent that a guy came to my news so enter the buzzer one of these means all of that is the daughter left
now we give you one little clue it's on your nose he doesn't retired if people tell you you need special song or begin to pull the dark web raise the passport some sites were barred or itd but some of them through net sites that are out there that you can probably go find in order to look that you need no special software how does that happen how can this is their goal society that I'm not hiding it's out there you can find it sells stolen credit cards well somebody must be working with me something gave my people the most provider setting some Eastern European countries where law enforcement being on character implying high enables me to
set up that website so those websites but it's tor side of inside to be clear that scientists set up somewhere they culminate that dark web so that's the dirt it's just a nefarious sites of do bad things but they're the leaders of all of this buffoonery this building one everything from actual exploits the celebrex to its selling drugs you know to look like there were the identities oh by the way I just whip them on for only $1 the funds so I'm gonna find the vertices that I'm using tumblr and push the wall exchanger I
won't give you best practices they give a reason which now there's a preview the presentation finally there so that's really build up something so the end of the day that's what the dark web so it's easy for our club searching for years old on identities but you find it someone's already haunted by the world instead there's a sign out there that anonymous it's a clearly designed stone already to look for they usually tear the release of stolen credit cards so for example if you're like a really good buyer you spend lots of money on their site whenever they did go fresh back to the credit cards meaning some retail if something doesn't even know their leash
and they're already selling and credit card information they first crack it and then don't wait a couple days and if you don't want to buy and then they'll open up to other people so they'll have that kind of service that sort of thing for you so they're making this so all that's out there that is the dark it's just all of this stuff going on it's the people selling it's the people selling the exploit someone let's go into you selling drugs people operated services hey I have a server in Romania it's gonna be Bruce here for a while if you want to host your site from here you know in charge of this much more
efficiently I got a botnet you know it's gonna cost you X amount of dollars all of that it's activity that is going on this has to happen somewhere and it happens on these kinds of sites that are out there and I'm going to get into that because they remove the challenge you've got thousands and thousands and thousands of people all over the world collaborating cooperating from all over the world now sites throughout the world you're going to locate law enforcement I went to Quantico and other have a shoot this gun straight climb over the wall you know and we're going traditional mafia crimes what do you got to come on down this Eastern European cyber ring so I think I
have to love treating that I do falafel industry out of my 15 that actually teaches how it all works why because learners in our course you understand how to get in there that's the whole point of I eat you can't secure IT if you don't understand how it works so you can follow all the toys and gadgets on one misconfigured system or a capacitor still possible you know we're not for safety reason we do compensate to factor is the end-all be-all but it's gotta be better than just this would be a good password for some of you in the audience we've seen the wargames
1983 how does he look Kitty in the system guess at the password 1983 he gets the system guessing the password it's the year 2019 this whole obvious things are still happening username and password everything changed anything we doing anything different we make the lights better and make the screen or clicker friendly and it runs a little faster and all that but at the end of the day you go back without any workings what do you do he went down how much grain of monomers all computer answer kind of like I said at the time that they were using you know if you see yourself evil and have action there's inadvertently case you're afraid of a line
you just scared you got any trainers until something sees a service do something laughter it hasn't changed nothing's changed this paper was actually published in a journal that's why on dr. may is one that early from join us today but easy editor for journalists who publish the journalist it'll sound a little academic blank and that's okay oh by the way fun fact I'm also an actor the president and I don't know I would pay money to do all my students they're just University thousand dollars so what does constitute you know of dark website it will keep some obscure I'm telling you something you just installed for you bring up tonight and we hear something really simple like that and go to other
sites and a bunch of you know a brand new drug psycho okay congratulations no Marvel it's that similar so I did you there Jersey whatever the party the mixer we know now at the same time I'm somebody who saved your neck sites you know alternate happened for all these nonliving sites that are out there and you thinking they're just regular servers so somebody is posting this website oh and by the way since I'm putting a www something back website thought you know X Y Z that means there's a DNS record for which means somebody's depending you know this this evening so how can bad guys but they're just operating in your future twine with the good guys using the same services
the good guys are using and my way HT you article is information he was eventually those bad guys sites great idea so the probably does everything is so hot so that the other $64,000 question some tommy was houses the health of people during Ellis they're not all freakin cyber ninjas there are some there are some news and there's what what you keep rubbing the median intermediate are using it why it's going to be for real that is a problem law enforcement law enforcement is a little bunch of cases they will just do siren thanks to cyber in which may be easier consultant collaborating operating to better at their job but they still aware on these and
counterterrorism you know and national security stuff all that oh by the way down all the way from organized crime for a little girls but you know the jihadi is an activist everything else on there okay they're determined resources so the point of the question becomes is that guys special depending on where they're operating from having the time to develop and get really really good good guys almost always going to be behind the curve is by eternity or working in case some cases with dark but formally it is basically award for staring companies assigning more competitive contracts it's kind of like wow [Music]
but it is the bus which is set up but it's nothing new so many people got a computer in front of them what they didn't notice my god I can solve hundreds of leave got abducted / and then now trip down the street needs to see the structure wasn't necessarily 1980 however let's talk about one more story for those of us are still right the Chaos Computer Club so those groups have been doing like even financial stuff since the eighties so it's been going one and there's always been an enabler the minute two people decided we need to share something beyond you know academic institutions sharing stuff are identical that will last outside the bigger regular users could get on there
baby said what can be doing this thing and humans we are takes a when we find Jesus but we say what can we do there's never any good thing right so it's gonna always end up something into doing it forever look computer fraud abuse either sound 1986 so think don't smoke ours is to get anything done now behind the HU are the fact that they signed it in 1886 doesn't already been a lot of computer crimes for someone said he targets a blast and huh we have got a long way since is no technically you can't breaking other people's computers and steal their equation so it's not nothing new there's always been a place to the Navy
man it's just now once that place is so big editors and commercial companies jump once a week and we can send them back and then but the reality was again it could be cleared and it could be poor could be I compete to be whatever you could be you know still I serve mostly it's only for the various actors but there are four sights set up there whistleblower sites so there is like a 1% that's not necessarily bad but you know a lot of these sites or meet their fraud sites legitimate peroxide to meet they're telling their song something just a written blog and actually really sell me something and it's something you're never gonna find what you're
invited in there I get invited they're kind of those back my point you have to advance to a certain point you have to have committed front row to share something in a way you have to earn your dues otherwise this top-level guys they're not gonna waste their time that the battles for case whose machines taught by some you know looking at a guy guys somehow manage a seat on the machine is watching this it's buildable they don't want them so they're gonna better those people and there is a wide range of folks and these sites pieces all over the world again and they're there and they defendant it's nothing new I think it's just more of a numbers
need once people learn actually be plenty on something they all jump in it whether it's for the bad guys I think I can do that I want to do that what was the good guys say you know I'm please get our people you know telephone in these slits it's innocent bird about their different predictions battery or not it sounds good than this one gives me more so you record his threats because you have a whole bunch of different us this is not meant to be honorable justices it's kind of making the point the Ovation States activists the organized crime simply didn't do a criminal to give all these people out there operating by them by
the way government people that see your due regard when you go home at night its number that says you know the abcs your banker home with the florals and then it stopped and listened to various other countries government can't do that to they go out the forms of HIV around that so they do operate on them now if you think you're gonna go on to something you know website now WWI and abt super secret plans thought you know CN it's not time to find out there but they're people and they're gonna hold their still six years ago some fighters that radial-g tossing the betting's is a YouTube video we got some of the tools they worked on road rules because one
online did some of these underground chi-blocker tools or a lot of people organized crime meanwhile here DDoS which now the banks were the French that means I can have something with a amateur to worry about all this traffic in front door which merely out of Canada to know and what's going on out there everything to us expletive service counterfeits financial did you mean you name it human trafficking you need pick something that could be box'll is being buck so the the counterfeit is a big because a lot of people will be theme conscious your we think a lot of the communities and he shares the fruit in that room because there are sites online pharmaceutical
sites again they're run by someone they registered domains somewhere they're enable payment and they're selling pharmaceuticals in a lot of cases they are conference so people so it happens all the time so who's behind it you can solve our president currently signing these up he spend roughly he orders the change in Urbania so before you go yeah it's supposed to be coming across the word but I want spend on my knee to be money I could literally fit it in regular and oh by the way we disagree a lot of the drugs come in true if you say to me on your right you said he was proposal you're really right because there she is
my little bro and it's not like I'm here's your packages of me know how to get around the counter measures to discover the drugs and parcels probably know that because they people were shooting drugs I've seen the conversations maybe they look the other stores not quite as dumb as you think they'll really not just do this they'll never you know and then share those best masters whatever these being given or treating is me actually show real close from bad guys offering up best prime suspect was one second just a bar that you know it was but actually subjects from an after-action report from the FBI is takedown of so broke and you close at least off here's
the raw station done is it Sugar's decision so like they're sharing that kind of in for me so what do you think that's doing to the people that are out there trying to do the various things they're getting better and it doesn't have a learner with the cops around that he can actually learn by someone else mistake and don't worry explain about what a bit we'll share that money so they are getting better because they're helping each other meanwhile back a little of us beheading you know you're trying to go to how many you citizen you show those indicators with us we've talked to our lawyer and they said found a dress but backwards there's no lawyers that's why it works
we 7sb lawyers it's like sunshine and repose beautiful receive every day that was our biggest challenge is trying to do companies the shares charging government declassify stuff China the government in this one up trying to govern declassify something that's open source at all times not once all consoles in HS it's like it's on CNN we have a report it's a so so far doesn't have that problem they share information to share W share best practices they work together to collaborate they set up forums they chatted with legal it with complete assignments then desiccation and you seem pretty fella named de meses let's work together on something in the work everyone here appear app it's awkward
weekend in the Middle's beer beer and they'll get better and then work together don't worry they have state babies much as we want to believe it turns out the Russians bleep are trending towards us the Chinese weren't actually not check read the words and your other countries on this planet that meeting on this select us however they will turn a blind eye for whatever reason so there's plenty of safe havens for the bad guys to operate and they can sell I sell anything you can attach to technology we are the enablers of it cryptocurrency sounds great not really if you think about what it is and it is enabler for lot of it online fraud you
know it pulls in the river put off DGP was that if you put it out there someone else work together the same time every penny we put out this technology that makes it so you could be more secure than against them to go to set the fact though that there's going to be a repercussion that means the bad guys are using to and so you did one of the technical integrity users who would be protected privacy however the mechanism using into in their protect and it's pretty difficult x-men and again already spaces and your job better look better disappear environment we'll just think about that I saw marble Tom speaking about spinal apparently a methodical
lifestyle a breed they read for coughing this is your conversation so you can process human language better that's great idea one of your nice
America so there are a bunch of websites on the internet and some of them want to be finally close to be found some of them don't want to be found okay it's just pretty straightforward I have a website and you can get making some regular hacker form or whatever on the money will be overdone on inside action registered in lockdown where that's like my heaven on the website that's no domain you definitely got diakonos Bulls exist by ethically in science I might have on TV sites whatever so that's just lay the ground bunch of websites out you need that money without being said some of those sites that want to be found or easy to
get into some of those sites that want to be found or not easy good for table your bank easily well the same thing goes for a dive sites you can get one to say dream or you can get on somebody's onion sites pretty easy for the search word we find it all the street right to the throat you have an issue sidewalks sidewalks because you haven't put the cars you know you didn't pick up a car collection so now right so 11 wind did you say what wasn't pretty easy so it's literally screaming but that there's other sites and there are are sites of people find it if you somehow find them you're going to do it's like all kinds of crazy to
not that a minute so that's the other half that means said now we kind of start bring this thing home well that being said the skill sets required where you're going to be a take time alone so first time I parted through first appeared on the external trs-80 my solution so you fired on it's just so I didn't want to do go to ten
intervention didn't to the point where you're lying you know you're probably
IRC channels yes people using our secret using down whatever packs Gator you started with the blinky prompt to all this stuff so there was a progression record is takes time some people never did some people will get there faster than others but there's still a journey now I kind of bring it home so they'll think about that one for the investigators and my mom every day I'd read the mindful of growth training classes faculty less inside the u.s. all over us to the fairway to seasoning blacks that is how to go online this conductor girl research everybody call you think government teaches man when I was a military veteran undercover class you know it was okay that we almost
officially awkward all we spoke this one with the canteen dude they don't necessarily tell you how to attend immunity that stuff with an efficient economy so it's a case you literally got long as deviate with a good example so the egg they're really good and being the street corner doing purchase you know here comes the agency comes out really good undercover ops in six months really good at that nice okay let's go on to a I'm poor sacred sounding [Music]
so so how to take that time and say okay you're really good at do justifications you're gonna find from someone who can't see to kids and the facial expressions gestures you can see the person crazy so we start with there now things Luigi steerer penis you know grandpa Sonia some points that Valerie really good stuff they got in fact in fact he's a simple fisherman who has the water Eagle worry or did you know granted six months ago he's been he's been using this being written about or he didn't also there you start looking into connecting dots you turn to be revealing that the acronym here who did money memory cases free cider training can you
go find them they're ordering involved this money from the great parks so there's a huge gap there at the same time well person saw a fantastical friendships I think that the rink and hard drive to find them they didn't keep forward they find the whatever they pull the final soft they've got the evidence they've kind of been dark an investigation it's a busy skill so it's none of the diamonds are bad thing you just know what they do but the entire way that the room is fine and I miss the basic diet bags on the streets too you know now I'm fine you know forgetting drugs you know small small mouths particular opportunity to guys we've seen the numbers whatever
70,000 a year now yes some would prescribe opioids people are a lot and it is also given extra don't die they're just all the liens that are just worthless abusers so your tivities it would bring them to this world that's all digital its global it's the sources of where it's originating from our unknown and you're saying okay you're a counterterrorism expert you're really good at that we want you to get on with this jihadi website and let's see what you can find out my website used an undercover and English and you know the source already tell I'm in Washington DC I like them on that website you know so the whole point is you gotta get them quick fast in a hurry
so they didn't meet it end in the badness and it is kind of this cheesy little example is to show you Universal progression guys everybody good guys bad guys they all start out with a bleep green light good lord willing they're not ready infadoos three years later roll quickly stages to make the point so bad about max Butler he was a nice man funny thing my name is it was actually operation called is EFTA so FBI undercover people are speak three bad-looking and I'm gonna die for that they took over the server he was the guy who was kind of football together but his starts is to be deployed he started times when computer enthusiasts of data
computer shop it goes to college those guys were here to buy RC channels of beating folks starts dabbling in Wi-Fi by the end he's running the world's biggest party you know but he's like one of the top guys in the world he's been doing it he is very technical it was just like if you watched his foot regimen and you know it's okay tears he was the only one was missing multiple federal agency tears why they got really wonderful guys it's a how many resources by the way to take to make one or two dots think are they got enemies now there's been one at her party boy that was sarcastic the next is number one you know it starts
out written dinners always start with the gamers starts out there because the hostel he breaks it learns how to you know get revenge then what happens you know East first earning work for us exploits for peace stuff their communities for your piece you know ecommerce platforms by the end of the day be exported for everybody SP they're going they're all Russian in the UK GPS fault he's working with them he's finding out who breeds at one point five million credentials so here's the kid expose a little WordPress vulnerabilities a couple years later he's working for the Russian government and at the same time he's also got his other gift on one priest instilling credit cards for the collateral so again
they she state actors and people that are sympathetic to work relation states but you will find them on forums they got a home their skills son the last thing this guy everybody would repeat poison to vote he's women funny will be poison in her gamer st. leaves in the act is accountable too pissed off at school packing stoves are tiny forms teen poison that's where he ends up to entices teaching Isis hackers how back happy endings my fighters better see the point they start with something that seems benign and they develop into something way bigger and looks like most went inside the criminals were three throughout the world and that's some of them and not
one of these because another cloud and they're out there interoperating and in it they all stink okay find Jesus there never was fun the money's too good is too easy and what they're doing is for creating winners and they're selling the wares online from the next room to come in to make it easier for them and it's like the small plug because they're doing is you do a fantastic job pretty neat the bigger target space for them to target I just think we keep alive maybe six how about you I'm all possible combinations so we're making it better for ourselves we're actually making it worse by interconnectivity that's a hold of the presentation so the
take away of all of this is that famous the technology beginner none effect isn't actually okay with technology but we keep it or negative things as a result of that we are creating a bigger threat space as a real thing bigger threat space were dating people all over the world to collaborate and we're gonna take advantage of the threat space as a result of that were having learning more success you were trying to counter them and the worst part about train encounters were not even following best practices from the 90s so think about that though a quite a welcomed the 90s is what you shouldn't do probably that some of the preachers the lastest a couple of years were not
following those best practices so it's a resolved now we're trying to get enough law enforcement investigators out there to counter this threat that's always ahead of you because they've got more experience doing it and they got better places to operate more secure places operator doing a better than that if you are interested in submission in their company here but a teenager no Saab research and education there is I'm sure he was in middle management areas our Eastman of aluminum and you're all can find it otherwise you can reach biography though putting us together they can share contact information well that being said teaching they're very receptive their problem is they get limited one thing to do was to go back
to their agency told but you can't do that thing but I got to go look at that website what's that yeah that's the biggest challenges it's time to pull out all right
okay with this sincerely it's not any one thing explosion it be unplugging the damn world enemy we are not ready for this not even security-wise there ever ever study saying the effects of these things one people so forget this is your face new exploits the technically that's a whole nother batch of issues the fact that we are plugging everything in thinking we're simplifying our lives but the studies are starting to show we are getting done we are getting done but there would have been some serious studies among beasts and attention students and green breathe air typically when these things I'm telling you it's over it was the kind of face book that came out and said yeah just kind of a bad
idea then you're gonna backtrack on them what's his name it wasn't he celebrities the ever go read about kenan birkan can't put it back I just to me it's not about vulnerabilities so much what it's doing the humans if he sends any humans making this more never ever you know all kinds of stuff away now just I'm just gonna read from going to this I got a question we'll just look it up I don't think about it of trying solve problems I've got a big expert you're a moneybags let me loot them not menus up there is a Bluetooth a carbon that can tell you my ears