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BSidesMCR 2019: What Colour Is Your Hat? - Megan Robertson

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good afternoon everybody my name is you know composite soon and I love the awesome universe cream MC branded slice well I said I could come here and not come to this day off so I have to do something to publicize me I'm up fairly late edition so I could be now fitted in there about five minutes ago to check it we're starting off with a degree in botany long live the soft white house because of consultants we got into the ground full web developer in month not man connect to the web yes I'm not all ships typically special so at the age and I mostly do study learning and over the final year projects and first a bit on the side I'm

taking techniques and so today I'm a loss what lose your hat and how do you think design making a case by case basis may be careful together hand is up to use the decided to hacker happy going to the station this morning on top of my latest on the gap on the hate line checking tickets look at his competence to say hello understand my culture behind the intersect conferences cyber security cyber suppose alright busy thank you and so it's a common shorthand has a bit of bad guys are they really cause they're not he won't be here for really level diversity through last fall and so it didn't used to be like that how I

used to be a constant term and I with the other perp X voice Oh our code shortcut inclusion modification the Pelican ticket to a publisher chapter new committee trying to get the slot to work I was happy we used to be a cover piece of courage unity who originally came through some hacking improvement for existing systems but a lot from late 1960s that I play the loose nineteen seventies the mid 1980s personal computer started to appear my father looked rather suspiciously at my spectrum and he said he's not going to spend all my secrets all over the world and I don't we've not amendment he was raised with our favor work that was taxes on it you shall not

be kept private yes it's not connected to any of these what's this why that's the payment alone we've got the Modi's and then you've got the films that glamorized it things like wargames hackers no longer content with benign improvements younger ones in particular looking at a bit of pain because of publicity and of course we've got to keep half the planet firmly in mind yes Missy I knew you let me get to like that mention in their academics then the world wide web came along and apartment providing lots of opportunities for doing really good stuff hey hey sentimental opportunities for doing cooking stuff with packet dance nothing about the passwords NC chefs invading privacy all the fun stuff you can do

with my hands why do we talk about hats if I can be new short pants I told you at all but Apple iPhone these Westen's if you tell the lone ranger who died because he hadn't why hassle I mean it was a bit shifty very often done to the mast on that he's got a white hat we've got speak of going and simply the LSAT himself he's got a black hat and he's the back darling so it gives us a shorthand so we have the hunters the hackers my teeth back in they've got the black hats poke around but it's a war easy as I've been malicious or personal gain we've got white house the internet with

hackers wall through symbols never work with children animals or technology or medical services literally years later very quickly to active why you'd be kind of bothering it wouldn't be interested they have that past the violate computer security little vision beyond being malicious look just people they can actually see some way of making some money easily they let them the amount of effort it's in liquid usually make some money what a multi good the slurs learn quite happy ethical hackers their tactic permeability testing security of systems might be hard to do so maybe just curious and the gray hats it might happen to assist in the powerful violation and then straight film bilities often have be

perfect with the true rules but panty Navy John and so we classified the names Turner for an all and seeing who decide to have us at their feet never efforts to make it to gray hats on them then those have got branded as a nationwide waffles and many have got the various types of hacker but most of us don't fall into the one have to be all the time most of us is so only we are honest will do if picture unfortunate it's alright because our that's it so many shades of through right through various shades of gray to black most of us are somewhere in there most of the time convergence and it was often to ignite

and so how did you decide what we really are where we stand maybe something I get this compel YRF it's important cause Willis helped us decide where we sound what we are known for what sort of people we are we need to make decisions on the right position pop the wrong decision as it can buy us a model decompose or quite happy just living in line not paying much attention at all athletes different long toes Marcos guide behavior we've got the law of the land we've got the ten commandments you've got very ascetic rules for units ten normal degrees of bed they're not an impersonal an analysis of night ethics and the things that shine a

light upon it and now how we make up our mind or parlo code is then three the lobbied ethic anyway questionings deciding who feels bad poking around a bit thinking about things the world itself derived from the great work ethic offs and ejected the Vsauce a custom or a habit in English this is the way to do things there's a study of the values and customs of the person or group Republic should be looking at what's right wrong good neither responsibility how are used to looking at human behavior Bank blacks those rock stars great storm blew up just after white Boris Johnson indecisive first bar exam during the run into presence which other people say

well that very fact that we can actually discuss it to everything about plans tweaking just the direction we wanted to gather other people so actually we'll just get on with this we be strong opinions as some people say it's good something to say that I'm going to put it succinctly I think severely about doing the right thing even if nobody is looking moles is more about if someone's looking on the basic speed limit because inflation is going down below right on but ethics means I dive in speed limit because room that's legal so what is the right thing and to decide some look to this morality comes from the Latin wall or s in which the English

words mole morality divide again that which is possible at least accepted moles tell us what is right and wrong what is good needed but what determines them some people look to their faith which is all won't look you have to have one people who don't believe in a deity as just as ethical justice Caitlyn very multi as those who do of what you believe may bring if it's completely different conclusion and those that we reached by other people's people is for me hopefully somebody who is Jewish there was fight done teeth for my father who's really my boss that you have surname we that the left of us you know we don't agree with that Minnie

I don't really want to get into that catfight religions start popping get out the way perhaps some sets down to the law a little step up and do it I'll do it can either be which is permit inside will do it for it's not expressly forbidden so I might doing so I'm going it what is the goal for it ought to be for everybody but of course it isn't changes over time is this a good thing should develop in absolute never is there is people's come up with ideas because they never apply equally to all people it shows this having very fixed house or business would idea now just himself environment conditions which may or may not be if

there's ideas nice to have a law that law codes that actually fits with what you all believe but it may not be the right idea everyone so morality little natural all the parents for the Equality underlies the law and it follows because you've got these wrong code the law is enshrining him to leave a contradiction to the lawyer type hold laws quite faculty moles you just follow it either way and hopefully keep society stable safe skilled and finding more dense because so many nasty things all of those slavery segregation all these things were legal the law also you could do it until people change their minds realize it is wrong and the law now says you can't keep slaves

separate people on buses or anything like that do you think the state is good placement ethics elite is going to grow going to turn them down the constitutional democracy the model contents of law must be given by the morality of the legislators not the cookies the judges just interpret them all but in a democracy we elected politicians and hopefully they do our bidding very rarely of course you might have said were above the law we don't need laws because that's the people concentrate them anyway we'll see where that our value is on again all over it the good manners part of the laws that the tea is doing which is right Lord turn out to by authorities and to

developers assemblies at that vestige of have you got in your community mold has developed not my one central authority but viola members of society we have decided what we accept they developed over a period of time experience reason it will be quite a lot of debate them legitimacy of certain or instead of example Google's about the use of cannabis it's changing becoming more more likely from various countries in various states that the recreational use of cannabis is now being committed there beat license isn't well perhaps that it becoming committed by other places and get for interpretation of rules are accepted some rules are more checks than others them people are to go and try and change them and this is why

fix comes in it shines a light on the long home to see if the all based on it are correct and if they're being applied correctly there won't be nothing to come for there are no surfaces this is where the fun that comes in debates arguments opinion it ain't easy but your own ethical standards should become the sky of your entire career or indeed you have a whole life everything you should do called on to your actual ethical terms events do what everyone else is doing but rather than what is right well do what is right regardless of iphone else's doing guest is going to have to decide each of us yeah that's right we

all have to decide class smells what we're going to do that by eating say all just knows what we're going to do but what do we do hiren is that one end of the situation is up to the individual so then yeah a bit longer can get more than one spot one pulls the MOSFET brought so we obviously want to seek help their various ethical sins that's one version of the game to make detail as you can see from the cartoon right at the standing around the bar ruthless consequentialism is quite fun the night O'Laughlin blackness along some action depends on the consequences yakking cutting a piece of string is very bad of itself please bear we've got my heavy

microphone for kitty it's definitely not a good thing to do is it so complicated as it looks at what the outcome if the outcomes good and the actions okay - there's no good or bad is just the action and consequence see some types of that but it's based on your own design based on the utility utilitarian view of city as many people as possible or algorithm and you're benefiting other people rather than yourself so living under that heavy falling weight - let's do the kitty may well be an optimistic at least to the benefit of the kissing that you might get squashed along the way deontology best said when he got with teeth in focuses of the will behind the act an

action is good if you've got a good reason to did perform in it comes from the Greek tale of duty love science understanding of music so but why did you do that thing and if your intention to this we might be gathered it actually makes mr. messing about it the do what is right the world make hellish live your life everything you do is going to become Universal nor take thou shalt not kill okay models but whether or not you have been Christian appropriately literally is not going about it killing other human beings tempting throw it may be eternal they might be feeling sensing that link so I don't want to encourage them entities that

idea don't say kill into that what about an insurgent plugged into your hands maybe that's not quite so bad if you are able to say I'm protecting my family looking at protecting other people as I also some coming in and doing those doing an activity good good it's protecting other people the law says reasonable thoughts I'm not going quite as far as I'm happy like an elephant and of course there's a whole thing and typically the intelligent intention ISM well that quite often when various legal examples come to mind but Tony Martin case on the loop chuckles burglar and was said that masterful here at leaves a fat but he didn't go out the country hits these

phones turn up at all and dials up people help and so he's only got he had to do something about this because trouble trouble trouble masters and

running away people actually come in so there's a lot of debate about that he put a lot you should be heated up Leyland more much more recent chat through broken and sentence and the difference that the screwdriver in the kitchen so fun is picked up and I didn't actually strike him with this but the burden of atoms which entitles consequence and for me said that's fine II didn't do anything wrong sir the further among should not be recorded business it and we've got you in nature we have general calculations lead them to live happily together and any actions the trap of natural identical somebody came in sat down beside Marilyn stopped being trapped in help and I like this

and I only remember to eat lobster so that was sort of nice ethical behavior we look at how actions are or are not compatible with the way don't we they was Plato said but that equals of good is not included nature but a man had to choose now instead to choose more evil action that you can choose let alone boom so this is human nature maybe it's human habit if I give positioning and of course people use an excuse it's just human nature collection apparently unethical act we have the Family Guy holding forth about some rather dodgy behavior at work just human nakedness up up to people good you on those beneath you and then the cut no

equals you have emotivism ethical statements have no intrinsic value they're based on how you feel ethical statements are meaningless it's just based on your own emotional position it can't be verified or Nothing objective about it it's how you feel the moral judgment gives over your attitude how you feel about it notable persons like anywhere attracting her a little not who happen to find in going on then we have had an ism life is all about having fun little later most associated with the ancient Greek philosopher Epicurus the reckon that life's goal to maximize pain and blue much pain and maximize pleasure of standard rudder and people's about the pursuit of happiness because he reckoned that tearing

happiness needed to do good thing it make everyone feel good that would be really nice maybe went a bit far won't worry about death as long as we exist yeah we've got that and haunted us come we have to do so again pounding them and then Thomas More book utopia trying to be happy up behaving a little model and way we should pursue pleasures that their nerves Napoli grounded and not become preoccupied with artificial luxuries so what do we do with all these theories

beautiful knocking around that might help you find Olivia will do to others as you would have them do unto you there's some version of that at the court that virtually every village ooh there's nine major ones who all say something pretty much on those lines however religions all the factories external non-human authority their deity which makes it hard to question their ideas because if you believe in them you certainly aren't going to become say Heavenly Father what do you think little doing here you don't go to there to my life and if you don't believe them also they mean is I'm I talking to the sky it may be speaking to assert their wolves without any any sort of evidence to

point to it any nationality loads of potential abuse you can closely gain the humans for that but even later that it wanted if you believe in what you say so fiction but now I'm part of the golden little consistency Confucius said look if you're going to repay evil with kindness or two things will be paid fine this way I believe you vehicles good behavior it's nothing I'm really guide in together people don't do things for nothing so maybe we'll go to the silver rule do not do unto others what you have not what you would not have to run to you couple of things personal gifts that the gambling Martin Luther King identified that but for the best people

lots will pay violence before Mullins will not be compliant just a 911 sample one in Milan Gary is especially very concerned is early years about the sequences televisions in fact affable poultry didn't give a monkey about black people one so that people came in and said everything you have to take was to lose these bins mean they like though nonviolent civil disobedience in a way it was melting the heart to death Bassets if it were and it certainly pull a lot of public opinion move on to their side so it led eventually to legislation there's straighten things out we've got the shift in ethics is rather shift in models examples of through then we have

the grazing room do unto others as they do unto you they Pat Metheny they pay kindness of kindness but even with justice an eye for an eye alert Institute one good turn deserves another human chimpanzee behavior is quite often teen that way you can conceive them after one another that very nice one but they can squabble and start bickering human beings can do the same so this grazing rule doesn't have to appeal to better nature is a kind of Oakland conditioning we were all others who are nice to punish them when they're not we're not pushovers that we're not unforgiving either then it gets bit done the are we will do unto others as you

like before they go unto you if objection is rather contentious at the girl will return to any title it's a secret maximum money if they can get away with it even though probably you know certain preset to the powerful including a certain and doesn't gentleman Baltimore and then you go go back to what probably I would say suck up to those above you intimidate there's the little link gold one else no no no hollow it built now and so bullet symbol is flexible then there's nepotism if questions are all things that close relatives stuff the best gold rules versus Allen will prevent any dilution we biologists will call it in selection and it's my eeveelution works so which of these is

the best we need some kind of what type of society do we want to have some are better than others you want to dictatorship or democracy you want capitalism socialism or something else suppose we seek not to confirm or deny what we've been sold but to find out what really works do a way to test our rules see great a little bit Unforgiven great vendetta's you live in some Italian month how you might be happy going out the door some shooting some people most of it done by Venice golden syllables its it replacement they can systematically reward bad behavior it's hard to imagine it those dull being chained in bailing themselves like elite people other people setting a good

example of and the IRA started this list and let a few right off show buckshot affordable DL is the only thing in between he said was though what we use rational intuition does this make sense does the decision we've made make sense can we justify it by our lack of thinking this is what my client it's called sensitive and knowing where you stand and being able to argue case for where you stand did you know Mike hold that opinion even those who don't agree with it might well be these party convinced through the moral rules have a parent organization and relationship what are the consequences and so interview can be rules first of all the mom test this thing you

want to do would you be happy if your mom knew about it not a very Christian but whatever you're doing may be within your ethical hacking on the part of your life would you really truly be happy if your mother needing done it if you're happy with that he's probably okay we look and we've got the TV test would you be prepared to stand up for national TV and said I did that thing most politicians aren't that we know exactly where they quote we will garland their ethics paid only person and it seems like the Hicklin a little like anyone there that's all so the smell test this smells of this thing yeah it was

like talking that you know it's not quite happy about it you're not comfortable don't does something wrong maybe 2/10 will do and the other person's shoes test which really think people yells choose tranquil run but it means that this thing that you're doing would you be happy if someone else is doing it to you on its head if you have if you'd be happy for this thing to be done to you then go ahead and do it [Music] and of course there's a market test would you buy a used car from this man took your dick in insulin for one person United States of Durham's head so how do we feel about keeping our homes do we

get either guilt or conscience it's necessary to conform tomorrow standards kicks in when someone pelted it up to boot standards Twitter is a prime example you said the whole thing on there and boy do you know about it it's an unpleasant feeling which motivates you provided by doing something a bit better next time conscience is internal guilt can be external and what else turns around and says you did something wrong you may stop and consider it right did I do something wrong even in do you think that it can get too much thus the soul what cancer does the body's is away not a good thing but there's too much individual start hi what they're doing it become insulated

they may be become quite comfortable with it so well yeah yeah but our backboard everybody says so so simple so I am that's what I am they made a little care but they mold live outside the system altogether so impaired intention without them it's not that offensive little love because I didn't mean it to the offense it just was so chance to take offense to it very easy one to go bandage you forget some polls Thank You sample cell is genuine they're upset you didn't mean it's a temptation for socialism I'm responsible for I say not what you understand forgive yourself move the bill try again respect up it keeps you in the system you know blue called

keep on going functions the ability to talk our actions ourselves based on our own standards that's why we need to have some standards based on content here needs to know me it's an inner voice that tells us what be sure that we should not do this doesn't fight they won't stop barking though adage assault leaders they just take responsibility fireman actions you make a mess cute a little it's really owed to you you decide where you stand you live by it you defend it you have to thank you for listening [Applause] any questions

elaborate on what you mean by the mountain pattern when we leave I didn't quite understand how you applied this is version 6 thing if you are acting on jeans reaction on the part of the company if it was known that my company did this thing would it stand up London market simple shoppings competitors and runners time to buy their house it kind of affects ourselves I'm puzzled by the most my new business

yes we're driving I think I mean most companies are kind of doing that all the time texting the water seeing both you have to take a really big slide unless I see a positive advantage there's well environmental campaigns about all that very strong is it not constantly food and so they to the divan teams and companies will look at that they well that would be nice that it stands postures and it might make things harder with example message messing about the plastic bags and the any one hand device hope you could think Thomas Carey back to the endowment but it's causing quite a lot of problems and things like um shopping and I remember many

supermarkets not on the plastic box but your shopping implant packages comes to the Train and this jumping around all step back pick up all your stuff you so much easier to pick us up in several bags so doctors stepping back for life but also in aesthetic to in developing ones well usually why one but companies should be looking at what the last of these bumps would be they may be taking baby steps which it's in the eyes of Duke on campaigning or whatever the subject is demand faster action more than us about you there's so many factors going on with that's why I think get that when you go together yeah another matter I've had by those three

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