
so I just want to continue with the next presentation okay I need your attention please so we would like to continue with our second presentation it's on creating an off-the-shelf implementable computer by doe Cooper and we would like to give a great lab we'd like to thank of a sponsor the Gold level sponsors and Mary University USA Trend Micro digital defense cents and the silver level silver level our National Security Agency exurban essential federal services open security titanium level cybersex jobs denim group landmark solutions so thank you for all our sponsor and thank you you all thank you all for being here and be a part of the presentation SoDo Cooper will continue now thank you
hey guys can anybody hear me on this okay that's good is it actually on okay that sounds like you said it's only a video or is this actually being recorded - okay then I will hold it because the way you made it set it sound like this isn't even being used so I don't want to hold a prop if it's just a prop I'd rather hold something a lot more fun it's like come on give me a flamethrower all right well as I'm catching my breath and sweating and puddles up here sorry I've been helping with Hardware hack and block sport both villages so if I'm out of breath that's why I'm also fat and
out of shape so I do apologize for what you have to view today I am shiny there's a reason why well anyway thanks for coming to my little chaos and yes this if you've come to the right room for implantable computer talk you're here a right place if you're looking for something else well go now while you still can anyway let's go ahead and talk with some terms start off with a what's a cyborg because enough when somebody gets an implant at least lately people have been calling cyborgs was just an implant not like a full limb or purse placement or something like that I've always thought of cyborgs as being like something out of shadow run and this is just one first
step towards it best best case we can do and what is biohacking well you can't get shell on a person at least until I get the computer inside somebody then you can theoretically get shell on them it's basically a do-it-yourself biology or evolution depending on who you talk to and last term that often years is Grindr no it's not the dating app if you're here for the dating app sorry as somebody else is talking online and speaking of implants you know third and biohacking there could be implants and penetration testing again not this talk not my device this is not the time a computer that you have come for if you have move along move along and yes I am
a Star Wars fan and I do abuse it butt implants this is more the kind of implants that I talked about and apparently somebody left a toy here five dollars to the first person that wants a monitor you must tackle the individual and take it from him if you want to speak to that individual go by the hardware hacking village and enjoy getting help with him troubleshooting our challenge today but anyway you might be wondering what kind of crazy people I got to work with me well me I'm the I'm the idiot that puts the electronics together plus we have Kasich's who's a guy and it's doing the coatings and the actual implantation of the device and of
course we need somebody that will actually take the device that happens to be anesthesia 10 she's a professional cyborg magician and the host of the device and she'd to quote she said I don't care how big it is just put it in me ya know the challenge was to create a prototype proof-of-concept basically taking off the shelf anything I can find slap it together to do a stupid person trick as she so put it because she wanted to do a card trick using a computer implanted in her that wasn't enough for me I wanted to make it a little bit harder because why I created vice and put it inside somebody that just sniffs NFC when I add a little
Bluetooth and some Wi-Fi on there on there too who doesn't want to run kismet from inside of someone's body but what are the words going to be the results truly open source implant that you can take improve upon it yes I'm sure if somebody in this room can improve upon it and then share the results except for the coding sorry we're not sharing that will be glad to code it for you whatever you come up with but we're not we're not sharing that part that's actual product the the computer is just a proof of concept so you might be thinking what's the possible dangers of putting something random inside of a person's body mmm I don't know if you're a fan of
Evil Dead or army of Darkness but if you'd not please Google later watch it learn enjoy don't blame me if you don't like it if you don't like it you have no bad taste and you shouldn't be in this talk because this talk the humor is free and because it's free it's bad and when it comes down to it truly what are the possible dangers well you know bleep was like the note 7 that would blow up in people's pockets catch fire with lithium ion packs they do catch fire and we I don't want to catch my friend on fire I don't want to catch other people on fire so that is a possibility now dealing
with magnets it's another type of implant there is heavy metal poisoning if the coating fails and also if you don't put it in properly if you choose to do it say in your kitchen with vodka and steak knives non-sterile surface well you could get infections possible sepsis possible death looks like I got a repeat slide sorry about that anyway you might be wondering how do I get upgrades how do I get some of these implants well a common way is an injection like a slide a couple couple slides ago was size of grain of rice that's a most often most common type of implant these days NFC or RFID people use it as like a secure key
so you know I don't know about y'all but I carry enough stuff with me just as me I don't need keys or other stuff in me so might as well have that for front door motorcycle what I want to have you what are the possible advantages hmm better grip better what have you if you go as far as this guy did but hopefully not everybody is up for that kind of super changes yet so you might be wondering why I'm up here why am I talking to you why am i sweating on this poor defenseless computer well I've right now I've got six implants East have seven the seventh was a PCB that had in my middle finger it
worked great as a digital business card when I was talking to recruiters because I'm sorry if there are recruiters in here if you don't have a sense of humor well that's your fault for coming because if when they asked for my contact info is it your scan this exactly the kind of response I was hoping for if you get if you sat there looking at me blank I'd be like I'm sorry you should probably go this is only gonna get worse but currently in my left hand I've got a NFC which is in the web of my hand it's also my front door key and if you scan it it will rickroll you that way I can
know you're trying to get the UID for my front door I'll be like if I think that you're never gonna give me up never gonna let me down then I know that you're trying to get my front door key I'm just like dude come on what are you doing the other is an RFID chip that's in hid mode which is basically a high-security badge for work still active on the job that I used to have two years ago and I use occasionally when I go back and visit it's funny because then they're like I told the system admin six months ago to turn that off and throw it away and I laughs going well that's your
fault not mine you should make me a system admin in my right hand I have another RFID nem mode it's often enough can be used at a local hackerspace known as can opener laps as well it once I get it working again it will be my motorcycle key and I also have a digital business card to replace my PCB that's on the back of my hand since I had to take that out I also have to body temperature sensors and the arm armpit that once I get the wearable working well I'll be able to track my core temperature over time and hopefully it gets some working Python scripts to be able to tell me hey you're hot maybe it
should sit down and hydrate because right now I'd love to sit down and just hydrate and then it was then tell me when I'm back to normal temperature and say alright get up and go back to walking Fat Boy and so you might be wondering why do people do this often enough it's yeah better physical security better keys because if you don't know how bad keys are don't know about how bad handcuffs are please go buy the locks port village and learn how easy it is to bypass 15 seconds you can open up the most common lock known to man which is cruddy $10 master lock you see him everywhere worst mistake anybody can make because
it keeps only law-abiding citizens from getting in now there's also cosmetic applications where you can implant leds or treating vials to have like a glow-in-the-dark spot in your hand as well as you can expand your own senses through magnets be able to detect electric electrical fields like from microwaves etc so see if I can okay that apparently the video is not working so oh so it's not on my screen Thank You Mac but anyway that is an implanted LED and it's being exposed to an RFID field right now that's why you see a white white blinky light on there so if you like blinky thanks blinky badges this is a blinky badge you never forget at home and it doesn't get
interrupted in shipments from China that's what happened to our badges this year sorry they'll be in Monday and we'll work out details on how to get them later now magnets are a way to get implanted headphones like you see the one guy with a bottle opener he's got a different kind of magnet than the other individual now how do you transfer the music from your phone to your implant that'd be the coil and small device he has plugged into his phone it's actually an instructable but has become an implant through coded implants and the guy on the right and also the guy in the left has a glass encapsulated magnets that are injectable those just came out I helped bring those
out now hopefully this video start working you have to click it yeah I do okay until put made click the thing but that's can't open our labs here in town using an RFID on me and what okay not what I wanted now this is a My Fair based implant here being used in Utah with mass transit so that way getting the beginnings of replacing parts of your wallet by what's in your body now other magnets can be used for magnetic sense here's somebody with a small sensing magnet playing with one of my prototypes and unfortunately should have taken video because what she described what she was sensing playing with the prototype was pretty interesting to say the least but back to
the challenge why why are we putting a magnet in a person other than it's fun and it's kind of cool and anybody can do it theoretically if you're brave enough to you're let it be put in you it's it started with a device that's about the size of a messenger bag called an RF tastic thief you can use the sniff RFID or NFC card security cards and duplicate them during like a pen test now I started making a wearable version of it to not to have to carry around a messenger bag during a pen test my idea was like have a gauntlet on underneath my hoodie so it's one less thing I have to worry about fumble with
but off the shelf what does that mean where has berry pie my friend total open open-source Hardware runs Windows runs Linux easiest thing ever but it's freaking huge you don't want to put that in some site somebody's body especially with several hats on it so so did associated dongles and antennas that thing would probably be bigger than my leg let's not go there so I went a little bit smaller with an a still not small enough too much power consumption what-have-you so we went smaller with the PI 0 for our quickly building fastly building prototype but you might be wondering why I hit PI because all the hats are readily available on the on the market
it's just ridiculous all the different kinds of hats that got out there especially when you got five different ones to choose from for battery and recharging capabilities but then you destroy all five trying to find out which one works yeah so yeah when I'm involved of course unfortunately the question is not just stick with the challenges how over-engineer can I make it how complicated can I make the problem why because I'm dumb this is why I say you can probably take the design and make it so much better because there's so much redundant junk on there it's ridiculous I had to actually just strip it down just to Bluetooth Wi-Fi and NFC of course because that's the
original challenge that there was instead of adding accelerometer and other stuff we're not going to go into because he have my wife something audience you to I don't want to make her tell me later why were you trying to do something silly like this but anyway what were some of the problems that we really stumped me along the way was well the Hat for the tree charging it's got a switch on it and I found easily with inductive charging if you leave it on works great then you can code it'll be fine except we can recharge it does it recharges slower the battery pack heats up a lot quicker and you have just a lot
of problems especially fire so I tried to switch to the most common switch that you can flick with an implanted magnet to turn it off and on which was a reed switch it's basically like a mechanical switch that's basically a wire encased in glass but you can manipulate with a magnet to turn it off and on again of course with you know open-source hardware and software you're gonna have to turn it off and on again for updates and just keep it unfrozen so actually in body hacks con this past January somebody from the audience said I should use a Hall effect sensor brilliant it's solid-state it's not mechanical still affected by a magnet so it can easily be encased instead of a
switch this is why I've been giving any stocks to get help further when I don't know what to do else to do to fix the thing so then yeah one of the biggest problems is recharging it how to recharge a lithium pack inside the body without setting fire to it yeah building your own charging circuit and charger not advised I can attest why fire fire bad fire inside person so much worse it turns out Adafruit had a great little kit with the safety circuit built in according to them after bugging their tech support saying all right what parts do you have what have you is there something that keeps it from overcharging and Seneca fire and they
asked me why is that a concern well it's gone inside of human body and said excuse me what what are you doing why are you doing it said I come see the talk and laugh and they said the the circuit would it hopefully prevent that so far we're about to move into the coding phase so current state of the build yep about to send five prototypes to my buddy Kasich's so he can code them then we can charge them see if we break the coding we'll have you seepage into it that short-circuit what have you bad probably fire because it catches fire regardless anyway right so yeah once we figure out how to build it and how to
code it and not set fire to our friends because that's an eventual goal to not set fire to our friends at least that's what I tell myself that's going to be taking everything we've learned and put it on a single board so we can then cut it again and then it's a product first the phase one everything we've learned all the parts they'll be up there in a list and say here take it along with the software because the software that's running is already open source got permission to use it but since it was a buddy of mine and it's in Houston but he had the same reaction Adafruit had when I asked him is okay if I use this before
putting in the human body he's excuse me what you say in the human body what for is this for a special pen test or you wanting to put it in me no no no it's like no of course I knew you wouldn't take it you don't even want a glass capsule and you why would you want something the size of a pack of cigarettes and yeah he's like that's still big I was like tell me about it it's I'm trying to make it smaller trust me I am but when it comes down to it we're of course yeah nice resolution problems this morning but anyway just got this URL once we are ready to publish go to it we'll have everything
in up there for you all to take including direct link to the github for the software so that hopefully somebody in here will take it build it make it better and ensure what they've learned along the way so I can learn something too but that's the whole point of this talk is just to say hey anybody even this idiot can make something cool to put in somebody's body now the challenge is on you once it's published to do something else to inspire somebody else and if you want to know more about by hacking in general please go to dangerous mines dot IO it's where we actually reach out to peoples that do this for their actual
living not just because they like a challenge and don't want to set fire to their friends again but go to it we talked to them find out why they got into it how they got into it and what projects they're working on as well as what projects they need help on because if you want to get involved it's easy way to do it learn from the experts and instead of just trying to do it on your own because you got to learn first before you before you can do it in the end and this is a buddy of mine I got to I got to know a last weekend up in Indiana at Circle City con he's a one of
the two guys that's a part of mr. blinky bling which helped us have kits for the hardware acting village that's available today over in the other building where you can learn basic soldering skills would have you and those come in handy especially in build like this desoldering especially so please put in LEDs backwards so you have to desolder and resolder anyway if you want it if you want to know have any questions what have you feel free to ask now this is we've got just a few minutes left plus if you so desire to get an implant I actually have some with me today just got to find me whether I'm in the hardware hacking village or the Loch
sport village because I'm running both and I will probably not be sitting down very long in either one just gotta find me
that's that you'll be able to find out along with the other technical specs on the website not really seeing any anything right now not yet because one we also want to release exact endurance levels what-have-you but we're just trying to get through the stability phase of it I'm sorry he was wanting to know the power requirements for the device and that's why I said it's tech specs I'm not releasing at all right now is that what you said okay because I couldn't hear you apparently my wife has better ears in me I'm not surprised she's a teacher can you tell these electricity have not even looked at that yet I'll probably have to google later and
see what you're talking about yeah that's what this is half of the time you're like oh that's cool what is he saying especially the especially this podcast like when I was talking to Oliver Mehta Bukh and up at out of Brooklyn he works with crisper cast 9 to extend life and half the time I had two laptops open one running in the podcast the other googling what in the devil he was talking about with probably 30 tabs open the browser trying to keep up with him well my co-host was like I don't know what's going on what's next what's the next question I lost track five minutes ago or 15 minutes ago because the guy
was just rambling on way up here and we're just like I don't know what he's saying he said something about it enzyme what first we were thinking it was some sort of device that he was chopping DNA gluing it together now it's enzyme where he do black magic on genetic engineering still don't fully understand it but that's not my field I don't have to have a computer guy and the hardware guy anyway yeah and it's all inductive charging for the most part but as far as except for one because it there is no recharging on the North Star put out by grindhouse white where their first version is just a proof-of-concept just like phase one of this is just a proof
of concept to satisfy the individual set the challenge and they didn't have an a charging circuit on it it's just it goes and then it's done then you got to pull it out and replace the battery or solder into it and charge it somehow but basically it's done because it's in case you're not going to break it out it then becomes a wonderful high-tech paperweight their other project they had is called a cicada which is basically a biosensor that is rechargeable through inductive charging but that's the easiest way when you're going through meat it's not like that you can you know have a nice little USB port there I'd be nice because if you did then it'd be like a regular implant
T's having a hookup to further prosthetic it's an open wound always will be an open wound won't fully heal so that's a definite possibility of you know infection and complications later on we don't want to deal with that he was asking about implants and MRI yeah this time I actually remembered to restate the question all right so MRI only with high HD high Tesla MRIs is there a chance for damage to the implantable as far as like RFID NFC chips as far as magnets I wouldn't suggest it but if you talk to the technician running it and if they have any experience working with shrapnel then they'll know to do like a constructive bandage to basically
immobilize what's in you what have you to make it less less of an issue you probably still would not want to like MRI your hand if you've got a magnet in it wouldn't suggest it'll give at least a tug it will not be comfy but it won't rip it out if you cuz I'll shut it down as soon as it's uncomfortable because that's a huge machine and expensive machine don't want to take a chance on it anybody else all right well thanks for coming and I hope to see you all over it locks port or the hardware hacking village [Applause]